🌞 Solar Storms, UFO Contact & Consciousness Shift: Are We Entering a New Cosmic Cycle?

In this episode of Cosmic Conversations, we explore the intersection of solar activity, UFO contact experiences, and the evolving nature of human consciousness.

Our guests, Dolly Safran and Preston Dennett, share extraordinary insights from decades of research and lived experiences involving extraterrestrial contact, witness testimony, and unexplained phenomena that continue to challenge mainstream understanding.

We also discuss the possibility of increased solar activity and coronal mass ejections (CME’s), and what a major solar event could mean for technology, human resilience, and global consciousness shifts.

Dolly shares her direct experiences with ET contact and non-human craft interaction, while Preston reflects on compelling case studies from witnesses around the world — including his own personal experience connected to these phenomena.

Together, we explore key questions such as:

•  Are UFO encounters physical events or consciousness-based experiences? 
•  Is there a pattern behind global contact phenomena? 
•  What role might solar cycles and cosmic events play in human evolution? 
•  And how are these experiences reshaping our understanding of reality? 

Rather than offering conclusions, this conversation opens space for inquiry, awareness, and expansion of perspective.

✨ Stay curious. Stay grounded. Stay open.

🌐 Learn more: https://www.dreemtime-academy.com

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

From now until 2038, so it's in that range. Once we hit the center of that galactic current sheet, uh no stopping it then, you'll know we're there. And uh so people really have time to prep. I would say you've got at least a year and a half, that's my estimate, cold estimate. Uh, but I'm warning everybody now's now, if you can get survival food, if you can learn how to live without electricity and all that, and prepare to get away from it because when that CME hits, if you're in a house with electrical wires, it's going to burn you to the ground. Okay, remember the Carrington event in 1859, 1858, excuse me? Uh it burned all the wires up and all the the telegraph stations, and some of those machines were going crazy and some of them melted. This is energy so heavy and so hot that it will melt all the metal on this planet in seconds. And you need to be in a bunker. You know, you need to practice how you're gonna get there, you know, find out where the caves are where you live, go into the caves.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

I'm Hagan Crawford, your host and soul guide here at the Dream Time Academy, a cosmic mystery school for starseen truth seekers, just like you, who are looking at rediscovering your inner wisdom for a life of more freedom, joy, and purpose. Now, before we dive into today's episode, I'd like to invite you to subscribe to this channel and click the bell for future notifications so that you never miss one of my podcast episodes of either the numerology show or cosmic conversations, or indeed some of my transmissions, which will help to activate the next layer of your spiritual awakening. I'm the author of the Starseed Ascension Guide and the Cosmic Family Oracle Cards, both designed to help you to reconnect to your higher self and remember who you truly are. If you want to dive deeper, we have an online membership portal called the Oversol Codex Collective, where you can join a like-minded group of star seeds from all across the planet as you delve into courses in numerology, colour therapy, and cosmic consciousness as well. You can also support this channel by becoming a member either as a SoulSpark or a Codex Keeper. If you're feeling the call to join us together in person, then we also host Consciousness Expanding Retreats in Perth, where you can really start to experience this incredibly immersive work within community environment. Once again, your support really helps this channel to grow. So thank you for joining this team of galactic light workers from all across the planet, helping to expand consciousness and bring light into the darkness. So, welcome back to Cosmic Conversations. Today we step into the most expansive fields of modern mystery, UFO contact, multidimensional intelligence, and first-hand encounter testimony with two remarkable guests who have dedicated their lives to investigating what lays beyond conventional understanding. Our guest today is Preston Dennett, a field investigator for MUFON, paranormal researcher and author of over 30 books on UFOs and the unexplained. Since the 1980s, Preston has interviewed hundreds of witnesses and documented extraordinary encounters ranging from close UFO sightings to paranormal phenomena that challenge mainstream frameworks of reality. Joining him is Dolly Safron, a lifelong experiencer whose encounters have contributed to some of the most compelling cases of studies in modern UFO research. Together we'll be exploring not just the phenomena itself, but the consciousness behind it, the patterns within contact experiences, and what it may reveal about human perception, reality, and intelligence beyond Earth. This is not just about UFOs, it's about how reality itself behaves when observed through the lens of direct experience. So welcome, Preston and Dolly. It's an absolute honor to have you on the show today. How are you both?

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Well, and thank you. I'm fine.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

Thank you, Hydro. Doing great. Hope you are too. Yeah, I am. Thank you for asking. Yeah. It's uh it's been fascinating to observe the work you've been doing, you know, over the past few months. And I've um I've thoroughly enjoyed, you know, the depth that you you both go into. And I think that's you know somewhat lacking, you know, in a lot of uh this community. So, Preston, after decades of witness testimony, what patterns have emerged that most challenge mainstream assumptions about UFO phenomena?

SPEAKER_03 5:19

I would say one, that there's far more evidence than most people realize. Often I'll hear people say it's just eyewitness testimony. That's patently false. There's an enormous amount of evidence, including and certainly not limited to landing trace evidence, radar return cases, uh metal fragments, implant removals, medical evidence, electromagnetic disturbances, uh animal reactions. I mean, that could go on. There's a substance called angel hair, which is this sort of spider webby cotton candy-like substance, which is, I believe, a reaction kind of to the hot plasma fields surrounding these objects. But it does, it's a physical form of evidence that's not well known. Uh, I think also that there's this misconception that the onboard experience is a negative experience that has not been my research at all. And I think that aligns with a lot of other researchers like Barbara Lamb and John Mack, as we mentioned before the show. We pretty much know what to expect when someone's taken on board at this point, which is, yeah, being physically examined, but people will be given a tour of the craft. I'm not so sure that a lot of people know about this, or or be healed, or be given all kinds of information, not only about their personal lives, but about the world itself, warnings against nuclear proliferation, pollution, corruption, these sort of things. So there's still a lot of work that needs to be done to really bring understanding to the general public about this subject. Uh, but definite patterns, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Yeah, absolutely. It sounds like it. I mean, that's a lot, you know. And for you know, for anybody who's unaware of of you know that these types of um close encounters, would you say that um that people that have these experiences have very different reactions to them?

SPEAKER_03 7:26

I would, yes. Some some people can have the exact same experience in terms of what's actually happening to them. And one person will be so frightened that they don't perceive it very well, they end up having missing time and they come away from it as a negative experience. Or another person perhaps has dealt with you know fear in their life, does not have fear, and it's absolutely a wonderful experience for them. If someone's ultra religious or an ultra-atheist, either side of the spectrum, it can be more difficult for them to process the experience. So absolutely, there's a factor of how a person's own belief system sort of they see the whole experience through the lens of their belief system. Uh, so yeah, it definitely depends a bit on the person. Uh, but essentially they're still reporting very much the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

Yeah, that's right. It's interesting because, you know, they the ETs, you know, that's not their agenda, is to try and hurt anybody, but it's the belief system of the individual, isn't it? That um, you know, that often what is why they've been depicted as being, you know, somewhat negative in the media. But but really, you know, I think what from what I've sort of learned along the way is that their intention isn't to want to cause trauma within the the human, they're just uh slightly unaware of maybe some of the emotional um, you know, the depths of the human emotional system. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_03 8:57

Um, I think that they are quite surprised by our level of fear, perhaps. And we definitely have the sort of stranger danger attitude. Uh and here on earth, we deal with so much delusion and corruption and fear and division that I think we sort of expect that from someone who's uh quote other. Uh so yeah, there's I think some truth to that.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

What what do you think, Dolly? What's coming up for you when we're talking about this?

SPEAKER_00 9:28

They are um, well, from my experience, they are very well aware of how we're going to react to everything. They know our uh the level of um maturity that we're at right now, they know our level of scientific knowledge, they know everything about us, literally. Um what doesn't surprise them, that I could put it this way, is that we're still we're still struggling with it. Um they can very clearly see why we are, and uh it's uh that's hard for them as um progenitor people. We are we're their children, they are our progenitors, and uh they keep hoping for us, they keep uh leaving clues and they keep trying to interject from time to time upon our societies, uh, not through the governments, but from contact with people. And uh they've been holding us up for a long time, uh, considering everything that's going on now and in the future, and they've that's been uh a bone of contention for them. In other words, they keep trying and we keep missing, and people are starting to wake up finally. And my guess is the same as theirs, and it would be how long before we fully comprehend what it is that we need to be doing as far as understanding what's going on, you know?

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Yeah, I totally agree with that. So when you reflect on your earlier experiences then, Dolly, what do you think was happening at the time and and how has that interpretation evolved?

SPEAKER_00 10:59

Well, I've had my whole lifetime to evolve, and it began when I was 10 months, well, seven months old, and right up until today. Um, I haven't had uh physical contact. I stayed back, they all bugged out, they're not here. And there's a huge reason why people are not seeing them in the skies right now. They've left in 2022, and that's because our poles are changing and our electromagnetic um fields are messed up and chaotic, and it makes it dangerous for them to fly here. They crash too much. Uh, but I have uh conscious contact with them, psychic contact. Um, my life has been uh very driven with the idea that I woke up to this when I was 14. I realized that I was being taught for a reason and that I was either gonna pick up the gauntlet and move up with it or not, and I did. I picked it up and said, okay, I'm gonna go, go, go. Let's do something. I want to do this, and I did. And uh I've had the experience of learning about their societies, about understanding who they are, um, being able to communicate with them on a level that they understand with and through me. Okay. I have uh multiple experiences of meeting different types of E.T., you know, different ethnicities throughout my lifetime. And I have a large view of who they are, what they are, and what they're doing in the universe itself. And it's mostly uh they're so advanced that they have a risk, they feel the responsibility of co-how do I put this? Co um what's the word hard for me in English sometimes? Um not co-conspirity, um co-cloud. Collaboration, thank you. I couldn't bring that up in my head if I tried. Um, collaboration with everybody in the universe, that it they've taken it upon themselves over the eons to uh be guardians and watchers and helpers and help everybody get up to the level that they're at. Uh they're teachers, they're you know, they're wives, they're they're all kinds of things. And we've only experienced a small spectrum of it because we've lived in a society for a long time, we're talking thousands of years, of total and abject and utter fear of them. And uh people, it's propagated, especially in the last 2,000 years on this planet. It's propagated. We teach our children to be in fear from the very first day they get on this planet. You know, you don't want your children to be psychic. You say, oh no, don't do that. This don't tell your friends this, da-da-da. You know, and then you hand them games that are dangerous uh for the mind to even conceive of what those games mean. It teaches them to be violent. Uh, we we don't govern our children the way we should. We turn them loose in schools and we don't know where they're at and what they're being taught by others, things like that. You know, we're just messed up. And they keep hoping that we will get a handle on ourselves, you know, a grip and understand that there's way more to just being here. There's way more than just toiling every day for a dollar just so you can eat. There's way more. And the very first thing they ever taught me was learn all that is learnable and then proceed. And then the second thing they taught me was for every action, there is an equal or opposite reaction. And then on and on and on after that. I've I've learned how their society operates. And uh we're trying. I see it every day, but so many people are so triggered now and so upset and so unhappy and disharm disharmonious. And it's it's that's how they see us right now. They see us fighting for our very existence for the wrong reasons, you know. Instead of helping one another and being one people together with one another, we're at each other's throats. And that that's disturbing to them, I will tell you that. It is disturbing.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Yeah, of course. It would be for anyone, you know, and especially if they have this sort of parental energy, you know, they'll they're looking at the children's like as if they're squabbling. And uh, you know, it's like what the what does a mother do when she sees her her kids having an argument? She gives them a good smack round the ears, and maybe that's what we need as as a human race. But um, Preston, uh, at what point did you personally shift from investigator of stories to witness of consistent reality pattern? When did I start having my own experiences, you mean? Um when did you shift from just being the invest investigator of stories to the to the witness of of these consistent reality patterns?

SPEAKER_03 15:55

Yeah, well, it's interesting because I came into this field as a complete skeptic. Yeah, I did not believe any of it, and finding out that this was real absolutely caused a huge shift in my way of thinking. It was very dramatic for me, actually. Uh, because I thought I had a good handle on reality, and I was dead wrong. Uh I changed it all changed for me when I found out my brother had seen a UFO. And then I soon found out that a number of people I knew, people in my family, my co-workers, my friends, were having dramatic encounters, and that definitely caused me to take pause and really dig deep into investigating and just start from square one. I mean, my entire belief system collapsed. So I really put a lot of energy and thought into this. And as I'm learning about this from the media, I was not much happier because I found out that the media misportrays this subject, is very fear-based, and does a lot of cherry picking and picks lurid, scary stories and outright lies. There was another shift when I realized our own governments are lying and covering up and inserting disinformation. So it's been an incredible journey. And really, it wasn't enough for me to just talk to people, which was thrilling. You know, reading a book about someone's experiences was amazing. Then I got to talk to them. I'm like, wow, this is really cool. But I really wanted to start seeing this stuff myself. So I was out there in the fields looking for UFOs, going to people's homes when they said they'd had an encounter. And it took some years before I started having my own sightings as well. And that was another huge shift. So I started investigating the paranormal as well, because there is a connection there to some degree. And uh I researched ghosts and levitation and out-of-body experiences, and you know, Bigfoot even, uh, and really tried to have my own experiences with all of these. Uh, so that brought a whole new level of understanding to it, to where it wasn't a matter of belief for me, it was a matter of personal experiential knowledge, and that's a big deal because there's a lot of people out there stating their opinion as fact, and it's not, it's not fact, uh, and in fact, it's often wrong. So I really wanted to get to a point where I could speak from absolute authority, and I think meeting Dolly really helped me a lot because her case is the most extensive of anyone I've ever researched or read about. So she was able to really answer a lot of the questions I myself had about contact, and then I had another complete shift when I finally had my first full personal onboard UF phone counter, which of course was directly connected to Dolly. It was her craft, essentially, that she pilots, which sounds crazy, but I will tell you, I vetted Dolly's story thoroughly for six years. She opened up her life to me in an unprecedented way to her medical records. I interviewed family members, I've seen the UFOs myself. She's got photographic evidence. So it's a continuing journey where my perception of this is continually changing and growing. And it's it's amazing. It's it's lovely. I wouldn't change it for anything.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

No, it sounds beautiful. It's like an amazing romantic love story that's otherworldly. But Dolly, did did you want to sort of explain a little bit more about what Preston's talking about there?

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Um, in uh 2022, I had COVID. And uh we had planned to take him for a birthday ride on his birthday, May the 6th. And I couldn't go. I was sick sick, and they are germophobes and did not want me aboard. And Huston wasn't in Georgia yet, he was still in California. And uh so Tilada said, We'll take him. Mama's on board, she'll take him. And I said, Okay, you have a great time. And they brought him up and they gave him a ride. And he got to meet mama, he spoke with her, he got to see the outside the craft, he got to have see the craft maneuver, do some special things, he got shown around and uh he had a good time. He met other people on board as well. So it was it was intended because we knew they were bugging out, we didn't have much time before they were leaving, and I demanded that he get a ride, so we did it as a birthday gift for him.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

So oh, that's so beautiful. So can you explain more about you know what exactly took place on board? You know, what uh what what was it like, you know, uh, you know, who did you meet and what did you most what did you learn from that?

SPEAKER_03 21:10

It really pales an experience, I mean, in comparison to Dolly's experiences. Uh, but for me, it was absolutely insane. Uh, I had no fear whatsoever as I was in my I was dreaming essentially, and suddenly woke up to find my the wall was opening up and I was pulled through it up this kind of energy beam. I've heard Dolly describe this many times, and actually I remembered it. I remembered feeling this prior. So there's I definitely had a missing time experience as a much younger man, and I had remembered some flashbacks of being on board on other occasions, but this was fully conscious, and I'm hurtling through space, and I was so excited. I'm like, wow, getting taken. I hope I get to stay with them. That was. Actually, it was going through my mind. Uh, and next thing I know, I'm on a table. It's so interesting when this happens because I've done so much research. I've talked to so many people who describe this experience. I'm like, I wonder what it's like. And then you get this idea in your head, and there I was on the table, and there was a very thin, hybrid woman standing over me who looked lovely. I mean, she was really different looking with very large eyes and a tiny little nose and very pale skin and rail thin, wearing a snow white jumpsuit, uh blue eyes, tightly curled blind hair thin. And she's looking down at me, asking me if I'm okay. And I was fine. So I'm like, I want to get up, I want to explore, let me go. There was little guys next to me. I wasn't really looking at them because she was so striking in her appearance. And it took me some convincing to let them know that truly I am fine because they were very much concerned about my well-being, which is certainly comforting, but I wanted up. And finally, they're like, okay, and I left off that table and I struck walked straight over to Dolly's main contact, a tall gray who she calls mama, who is very much extraterrestrial, meaning a very large head with large, kind of wraparound eyes and almost no nose, and but the epitome of grace and beauty. I mean, she was elegance personified. I was awestruck. She's seven feet tall, if not eight. I don't know, Dolly might correct me there, but she was tall. She tilted her head. All right, yeah, because I was looking up to her. I'm I'm 5'10. And uh she tilted her head, kind of bent forward and said, So, and I'm assuming this is telepathic because I didn't see her mouth moving. She said, So, is this what you thought it would be like? And I said, No, it's much better. You know, can I explore? And she basically gestured, go ahead. And it was a big room, 30, 50 feet across, rounded ceiling, spotless. Uh, there was a panel of windows all the way around, uh, very light gravity, kind of just slide across. And I looked down, I could see the earth far below us. There were other people there, human. Uh, they were in a trance, actually, a row of them, two rows of young youngsters, really to me. They were youngsters in their 20s because uh there was some grays over at one end of the room. I saw a lady who was fully conscious. Uh, I think she looked to me like she was Korean. I work with a Korean girl, she looked just like this lady. So I went walking up to her because I wanted to talk to somebody. This is the most amazing experience you can imagine having. But as soon as I got to her, I looked out the window and I could see the round globe, not far away, but 500 miles up, maybe enough to see the curvature. And this ship dropped in literally one second to until it was about 10 feet above the ground, it rocked slightly, and moments later shot back up, and I ended up walking back to Mama, the tall gray, who handed me a little tumbler filled with this greenish liquid and told me that you know I should drink this. I trusted her, she's absolutely radiating wisdom and love and nurturing. So I took the drink, which was uh not unpleasant at all. It was thick and very subtly tasted of maybe kiwi lime, is the best way I can describe it. She took it away from me. I'm like, hey, you said that was mine, I want another sip. I didn't I assumed this was some sort of fruit juice, but Dolly can explain what this was better than I can. And that was basically the experience in a nutshell.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

Wow. That's amazing. Uh it truly is incredible. I'm I'm there with you as you're describing it. I'm drinking that green liquid and tasting the lime, and I'm like, hmm, I want some of that. That sounds delicious. What was that then, Dolly?

SPEAKER_00 26:32

It's a drink that has um some elements in it and iodine. When you're on board a craft, they have a significant amount of electromagnetic radiation all around you, even uh, you know, as it's flying. And uh, so this helps you not absorb, you know, it helps you process the radiation away from your body when you leave.

unknown 26:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Right, okay. So I guess, you know, I was I was just thinking, well, when that the spaceship dropped and just loitered like about a couple of um feet above the earth and then shot back up again. It's like how how does your human body, you know, actually cope with with such you know radical changes in direction and and anti-gravity. It must it must feel totally discompopulated. I didn't feel it at all.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Yeah, it's more of a visual impact on people when when it happens because their inner ear thinks it needs to be falling and it's not, and so they get a little confused, like, what the heck, you know, just happened to me. You don't feel the G forces of it at all insidecraft. Um, so it's mostly all visual and mental when they do it, you know? And uh when I'm flying, I can do it and I I'm used to it now. I took four years to train how to fly, and uh, so it's not a big deal for me to do it. It's like woo, here we go. And uh, we don't feel the physical effects, but your brain and your inner ear are trying to cope because your inner ear and your brain work together to keep you in balance, okay? And if you like this, your inner is going, whoa, what where is it? Well, what am I doing? And uh, people actually will go, woo, or they'll scream or things like that.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

That's what the lady did next to me. She went out, whoa! I gripped this little railing they had. I'm like, whoa.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

It sounds like the best background ride that you could ever possibly go on.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Kind of, yeah, exactly. I think that's why they do it, to be honest with you. They love to give a good time when you're up with them. They try really hard to keep humans um uh uh interested, happy, um, asking questions so that when they go back, if they don't forget, they want you to, you know, research for yourself what you just went through. It's it's a it's a calling card, literally. We've just brought you up. Remember, you know, they want you to remember. It's it's uh it's a way for you to be very interested in what's really going. It's uh it's uh what's we gonna call it, a consciousness buster, you know? It's a breakthrough for people.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

So nice.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

I would have stayed there if we had asked. I really would have.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

How long were you there for, Preston? On the craft in total, was was time not like it is on Earth? Was it you could have been up there for 10 hours and it might have only been a second? Is it that sort of thing, or or was it real time that you were on the ship?

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Well, it's real time as you experience it. They can certainly bring you back moments earlier. For me, you know, it was probably anywhere between 10 to 15 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Uh it was actually an hour to two hours long. Yeah, you you were an hour, two hours in, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

Yeah, there might be pieces of this I don't remember, which would be really disappointing to me. But uh yeah, it was absolutely just a normal sequence of events in terms of you know, I woke up in bed, so I couldn't really tell you uh if there was how much time had passed. But it was extraordinary being up there because when you're going through something that's so unusual and different, time goes quickly for you. You know what I mean? Because you it's like if you're having a good time, the clock races by, but if you're stuck at work and you know the clock actually freezes in place, doesn't move no matter what you do.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

That's so true. Yeah, it's like waiting for five o'clock to come. Yeah, and you're like, oh, or or the the school bell to go, so you can go home and watch play school and eat peanut butter on toast. Yeah, I get it. So, um, okay, so these are the people that were on the on the ship with you. There was there was the Korean girl that you mentioned that was she was fully conscious. And then there was that other group of of 20-year-old humans that were just, were they like in a were they were they like zombies? Were they just sort of zoned out standing there like mannequins? And what was the why were they there then if they weren't conscious, do you think?

SPEAKER_03 30:57

Uh well, Dolly would might be able to answer that better than me in terms of why they were there, because I walked up to them, and there was a black man, there was people of all different ethnicities, and yeah, quite young. And I there was a lady there, she was blonde, and I walked right up to her, and I stood in front of her, and I'm like, Hi, what's your name? And she was awake, but she was in a trance, is the best way I can put it.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Catatonia. There's fear, people who are have reasons to be in unbelievable fear, I mean real serious heavy-duty fear, will become catatonic while they're on board, and literally awake, but unable to process what's going on. So they become catatonic. It's a it's a waking sleep, is what it is. Their brain just can't communicate, can't do anything while they're in that state of mind. And uh it happens to a lot of people a lot more than uh I wish, you know. Fear is a really bad thing. Catatonia is when you're going to shock, emotional shock and mental shock, you become catatonic. And uh sometimes it lasts an hour, sometimes it lasts for weeks, sometimes it lasts for years because your memory gets messed up from it. It it it sort of like puts it in this uh box of no, you know. And uh some people that's why a lot of people want to be hypnotized, go through that to gain their memories back. And uh it's it's a serious situation with humanity and it's fear, it's always fear that causes that to happen.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

Yeah, the fear causes missing time, but the your memories aren't erased. Uh, usually it will spontaneously return over days or weeks, sometimes years, or sometimes never. Uh but there are cases of people who've had it so bad that they come back, can't remember their own name. They really can't remember anything. They are having full-on retrograde amnesia. Takes them an hour or two, or a couple of days perhaps to come back. I was just looking into a case like that. This gentleman was that frightened. But not everyone, you know, most people I've talked to do have fear, most have missing time. Dolly's not unique, but she's certainly rare. I've interviewed several hundred people, and I'm gonna say a handful, five or ten, have full, what I would call full conscious contact. And even most of them still weren't all the way there. Dolly's really the only one I know of who's just overcame that completely.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

I didn't overcome and I never had it. I was raised by an airborne ranger. I fear nothing. He taught me that. Nobody in my family taught me to be afraid of anything. It was an unacceptable behavior when I was a kid. If you're afraid, you're gonna figure it out. You know, if if if you don't know what it is, look at it, search it out, know it before the end of the day. You know, own what you know, own what you see. That way fear doesn't play into it. There's a reason for everything. There's no reason to ever be in fear. I was taught that as well. You know, we should teach that to our children. There's nothing you should be afraid of. Nothing. I I I was taught to meet and greet every situation uh with myself in control of myself first, and then as an observer, second, to know every detail of it so that the light was shining on everything that I saw. And then the cognitively think it through. And uh, we don't do that to our kids. We put them in the middle of the pool and let and they a lot of them sink in total object fear.

SPEAKER_03 34:34

It's it's a really good idea. We need to put the unknown known. That's what we need to do.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Yeah, overcome fear. Well, that's right. And it's amazing, really, Preston, that you were able to be conscious, you know, on your first trip on board the spaceship for as long as you were, even though Dolly's saying you were actually there for two, three hours and you only thought 10, 15 minutes, maybe there was a lot of that that you were unconscious. But I I suppose my other question would be for those beings that were in that catastroph uh catatonic state, um, those those younger humans, what would be the purpose of them being on the spaceship then if they if they really don't get any have any memories of what they're experiencing? So, like why were why were they there?

SPEAKER_03 35:19

The same reason everyone's taken on board. Uh the ETs are working with a lot of people to uphold their genetics, to heal them, to provide them messages. And you might not remember it consciously, but it's still going to affect you. Uh, I think that we've got a really good handle on why people are brought on board. The ET agenda is one of guiding, teaching, healing, warning, informing, waking people up to their own psychic ability, encouraging them to understand that we are eternal beings, letting people know that we are all connected, including not only to each other here on earth, but to them. ET's will tell people over and over again, we are you, you are us, we are one. I laughed out loud when Dali said that phrase to me because I've heard that word for word from four or five other people, and not that exact phrasing, but many people will say something along those lines. But yeah, I'm sure that's why they were up there because ETs are working very hard to set us on the right path.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

That's beautiful. I I love hearing that. And it's nice to know that they've got our backs and that they, you know, they're helping, they're healing. And even if you're not, you know, uh aware of what's taking place. I mean, I I often feel like I'm being taken when I'm in asleep at night, but I I don't remember anything. But I I I I have seen um a saucer-shaped uh disc in the sky when I was in my early 30s and several other things, lights in the sky when I was in my teens. But I, you know, the only actual physical ship I ever saw was flying fleetingly in between the clouds when I was lived in Harold. I was lying in the back garden with my husband Mark, and I just happened to look up and I saw it. You know, I was like, oh well, at least now I know that they're real, you know. But that's the only thing that I've actually uh ever seen. But it was interesting, Dolly, that you mentioned earlier on that uh since twenty was it since 2022 they've not been able to show up in our orbit because of the um the electromagnetics and the pole shift. Is that right?

SPEAKER_00 37:34

So they so they it's it's solar system-wide. They left our solar system, they're out. Um, our solar system is going through an electromagnetic current sheet right now. It happens every 12,000 years, and um, it started in the um 1800s, 1855, 1858, around there. Um the Carrington event is a direct result of us touching into that. That was the beginning of it, physical contact with it. It's been invading our solar system at we've we're slicing through it. Um, so our outer planets have gone through it first. All the planets in our solar system are changing their poles as well, and so is our sun. That's what happens when we hit it. And it causes uh planetary disruptions, it causes bad weather patterns, volcanic eruptions, uh, the poles are changing, everything is chaotic, and you know, everything is nuts out crazy. The poles melt, fresh uh the Beaufort gyre goes, then the Atlantic cools off, and then we go back into an ice uh age, which we're heading into now. Okay, it's begun. Um, it's gonna get colder. It'll be it's swinging wildly right now. It's gonna be hotter and colder than usual, and then it'll slowly, gradually just go all cold. And uh, so we're doing that. And uh they they worried about us, they worry about the amount of uh radiation we've been taking ever since the poles started changing because our magnetosphere is now 45% incohesive. It's not it's down, it can't move away from all the incoming energy and gamma radiation is the worst of it all. And uh it's messing with our DNA. So they've been holding us up genetically for a while, a long time. That's why everybody gets contacted, everybody gets looked at, and tried they try to help. Um, the reason our world is so chaotic right now is because of this. Uh, people don't realize that it messes with your brains, it messes with your body, we have more cancer, we have more autoimmune disorders, we have more mental disease. All of this is in in line with as the whole change is progressing. And we're about to reach the pinnacle of it, and uh lots more ahead of us because of that. And uh so they've been worried about us, yeah, trying to take care of us, but now it's too dangerous for even for them to be here, so they're not here.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

So they're not here, so but they are still helping psychically.

SPEAKER_00 39:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

For those that are tuned in, yeah. Because I I I was speaking with a lady called Elsa Dylan the other day, and she was talking to me about how you know that humanity has become like mucus making machines, like we're generating a lot more mucus, and that um that's how the the human body is being affected by these changes that you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

Right, your audioimmune system is doing all kinds of things to you, that's right.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

Yeah, yeah. So I've definitely noticed that within within myself. Um so okay, so I'd just like to backtrack a little bit then, because obviously Preston's uh explained his amazing experience where you know he was taken on board your ship, but then you know he's very articulately explained that you're you know the the you know the lady with all the experiences because you remain conscious like throughout the whole of of your experiences because you've got no fear. So could you could you share a little bit more about that for the audience, please, Dolly?

SPEAKER_00 40:54

Um when I was little, um, my first experience memory, actually, I was seven months old. I was in my crib, and uh I saw a big light shining broad daylight through my level or blinds. I was in my crib, I was supposed to be taking a nap, and I started levitating in my crib. And when I got to the top, I freaked out. It's like, what's going on? And my brain said, retreat, and I flipped over. I was trying to pull myself back down, and my memory was okay. Um, after that, I started having contact pretty regularly. I I had um compartmentalized memories. I had a mother who was terrified of this situation because she was there and saw some of it. Um, I was also very psychic and I could do, I had unbelievable gifts, and uh that terrorized the family pretty good. And when I was two and a half, she was heavily pregnant with my younger brother, and uh I disappeared out of the house. And uh they had she had to call, she woke up, she was freaking out, she called the police, and uh they came and got her, and they called my father to meet us wherever they were at. And uh she was in a police car with a bullhorn calling my name all over the neighborhoods nearby. Um they got a um they had an AP you know, APB, you know, bolo out of me, be on the lookout, and uh I showed up at a U totem convenience store, which was six miles from the house on Miller Road. And uh I was when they all got there, I was sitting on the counter. What I remember happening is they picked me up, they took me to this place and they brought us down and they let me out and they said, go around to the front and go to the door, and the man there is gonna give you a balloon, a big red balloon, because I was easy bait for a balloon at that age, okay? I want a balloon. And uh so I did. And when I got to the doors, I couldn't push them, I was too small. And he saw me banging on him, you know, and uh he let me in. He couldn't find anybody with me. I'm just wearing underwear because it's nap time for me, right? So I got mad at him. I got mad at my mom because I didn't get a balloon. The police showed up with her, everybody's freaking out, and I wasn't talking to anybody. And my little mind went, no, you don't deserve anything out of me right now until I get my red balloon. I never got it. And they it took them a minute to let my parents have me back. You know, they thought maybe my mom had let me out or done something, and all the neighbors and everybody vouched for her, you know, said, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is not how this is. Um, that was a really big deal in that one. Um, they got a guard dog for me. She was uh a police dog that had retired. Her name was Heidi, and Heidi was supposed to keep me under control. Didn't work. They'd come and get me and they'd take my dog with me. Heidi used to go on board with me. They took me different places. I learned, I went to school with them. I I went I my whole life, it's just been all this involving stuff that I was remembering, but it wasn't one long line of memory yet. Uh my mom was trying. Really hard to convince me that I was nuts, okay? Mentally something. And when I was 14 years old, I decided that you know what, I'm either crazy and I do need help, or this is it, it's real. And I was waiting for something to happen so that I could put my foot down about it. And remember, I have an eidetic memory, and this is the one thing in my life that I just wasn't putting all together. And uh I'm 14 years old, I was taking astronomy lessons in the backyard with my telescope. It was late, it's school night. My dad said, Go to bed. So I packed up my telescope and I went in and I got my jammies on, and I don't really sleep, so I just kept sitting out my window. I lived in the Everglades and we had a big ranch, and um my windows were level or I don't, I mean jealousy, excuse me, big panes like this big. I when they opened, I could crawl out. And uh had a big tree, it's called the prayer tree where the leaves fold up if the wind touches them, you know, or you touch them. And uh I I'm looking out because Orion's up, it's January, and I can see up in the sky, beautiful, beautiful night. And I see all these stars, and I'm thinking, what the heck? And uh they started grouping off in pairs. There were 50 of them, and uh four of them came down, two went north of my position where we lived, toward Daydeland Mall in Kendall, on Kendall, you know, Kendall, and then two came down over me, over our property, one went west, and one came down over our house. Now I watched it enter the atmosphere, I watched it come down through the sky, I saw it changing colors as it did, and then it got to the top of the tree line. This was the 150-foot tree, and it was no wind that night, totally clear, and the tree started going, you know, I'm like, wow. And this draft was coming down, and um looking at it, and I'm thinking, okay, here's your chance. No more, no more memory collapses. You're this is it, you're on. And I started staring at it, I was gonna memorize it in my head, and I started from the bottom and I went to the top. When I got to the top, there's these two oblong ports, and in them, two beings, one in each window, looking me dead in the face. And I went, oh no. And I thought, no, I can't handle this. And I turned, I was gonna dive under my bed, and I only made it mid turn. My whole room flashed into white light and uh bright white light, and I froze um out of pure panic because where am I gonna run? I just froze. What will you do? And uh I saw these two beings come down in the light in an energy ribbon. The two that were in the window came down this energy ribbon, and one of them walked up to me, and he took me by the hand, and he put my hand in his hand, like this, and thumbed me over and took me with him, and we went to that beam. And when we did, when we hit that beam, the whole room went opaque. It blew up in white light and it more white light and it went totally opaque. And I got uh dizzy and suddenly didn't feel so good in my stomach, and I realized that we were going up. And I'm looking up and I'm thinking, I have a ceiling, and oh no, and we went right through it. I could see it, I could smell it. It itched my face, went through the you know, the rafters, everything to the top, out the roof, and then the tree was right there. I'm like, oh no, now we're gonna go through the tree, and we did, we went right through the tree, and this energy ribbon went up alongside the craft to the top of the craft. It didn't go in it, it just went to the top. And there was a hatchway open on this, uh, like like this, sort of like in the side of it, like that. And it was open. And when we got my foot was at the bottom of the opening, he I got shoved in and I landed on my keister and I turned around and looked, and there sitting next to me was Mama. And I recognized her from when I was five years old. I knew who this woman was. I went, oh my god, that's mama. And I'd seen her when I was five years old. She told I learned all about her then. And uh I got so sick to my stomach at that moment, I puked all over myself. I pulled my shirt up and puked into my shirt so I wouldn't get it all everywhere. And uh nobody flinched or freaked out or anything. And the two beings that went down to get me were back up in there with me. And she said, take her and clean her up. And they did. They took me down the level and they cleaned me up, took my clothes from me, they washed me down, they put me in a shower of light energy, and uh gave me a blue smock. And I'm starting to shake now. I mean, I'm like, because my brain is going, oh my god, I know what this is. Okay. She they took me back to mama, and and I'm really shaking. I mean, my teeth were clacking, and she said, Walk around, walk it off, walk it off, just walk around. So they did, and they took me up a level, and I got to see my room. I have a room on this craft, and there in the cubby where my bed was is my brush that I thought I lost. My mother killed me for this. It was a fuller brush, very expensive brush, and there it sat. And that's when it all collapsed in on me. I remembered absolutely every moment of my life from that moment on. It all might, I mean, I had a headache, I was weird. They gave me something to drink, not the green stuff, something else. And uh I calmed down a little bit and they brought me back up to mama, and everybody was really happy that I was in the condition that I was. I wasn't happy, I was remembering everything, and it was very, very, very, you know what it's like to have amnesia and then suddenly realize who you are, what you are, and why you are? And uh it gave me a migraine headache. Literally, I had a migraine headache from it. And uh she said, Is it gonna be okay? And then I hear this voice in my head, and it's Tilada, it's the craft, and I knew who he was, and they're all very proud of me, and that's when they congratulated me that I woke up. I attained perfect consciousness. In other words, I got who I really am to link up with my physical mind, and I'm dead up on, and I have been on ever since. Um they took me to they let me fly to Saturn. They gave me a device that's a handheld wand, and they briefed me, taught me how to get Tilada to do what I wanted him to do. And then we went to Saturn and I got to see the rings. I went up to the top of the planet, the north pole of the planet, and I got to see the fact that it's a chevron opening in the gas, you know, of the planet. It's a gas giant. And uh after that, they took me to the moon and we soft landed on the moon, and I got to see the earth and in uh face from up there, and um they said, What do you want to do with your life? They had to talk with me. They were very proud of me and congratulating me. And all I could think of was what I wanted to do, but I had to wait for them to ask, and they did it. They asked, What do you want to do? And I said, I want to fly this. And uh they said it that's a good idea, and you could probably do it, but we have things to do. We have to figure out whether you can or not for real. And uh, so I had physical exams, I had mental exams, I had psychic exams, I had every kind of exam you could possibly imagine, and they finally said, Okay, you're gonna train. But they made me realize that if I chose this for myself, it was a lifelong commitment. There was no going back. And uh I had to honor it, respect it. And all the training that they had given all the education that they had given me before was now in my memory again. I was all there and I was like, I'm doing this. And we made the deal, you know, I made the deal. So I I obligated myself to training to become a pilot with them. And I obligated myself to living my life with them and honoring what they're doing. I became in their service and uh took me four years to learn to pilot. I was 19 when I took my first solo flight. Um, they brought my father aboard. My father was a contactee and he got to sit next to me while I flew for my first flight out, which was pretty damn cool.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

Oh, that's I can't even explain it. I I I I I I I can't even begin to imagine how amazing that must have been. It sure beats the movies. I mean, it makes me think about when my dad taught me how to drive a minivan, you know, and that was a special moment for me, you know, that he was sitting next to me. But like for you for your dad to be there, like when you piloted a spaceship, I mean, you you know, that's the sort of stuff that dreams are made of, really. It's it just must have felt like did you did you ever feel like, well, why me? Why why is this happening to me?

SPEAKER_00 52:52

And and why I asked that question over and over and over again. And it it they said you have to you have to understand on your own this this you have to come to the realization yourself. So it took me till I was in my mid-20s, maybe almost 30, and I finally realized after everything that was said and done, and after I was working with them, that uh I was born for this, that all my genetics, all my training as a person from my own family and from them gave me opportunities that uh were open to me because I was ready to walk into them. And uh it's like, you know, you ask a pilot, what made you want to be a pilot, a regular pilot here? Well, they'll tell you I've wanted jets my whole life. I wanted that too. Okay. I wanted to fly. My whole life I wanted to fly. And uh I just didn't know what the opportunities were going to be for that to happen. And then it came to this. Uh, my education, everything, all of it just fell in, and I took every every opportunity to apply myself to it. It's not that I was special, it's that I wanted it. I was willing to make myself available to do all the learning that I needed to do and the training and to be honor what that is, uh, to throw myself completely into it and become that. And uh it's not a walk in the park, trust me. I have four years of hard, hard, hard lessons that I had to learn. Um, and then years after that of experience uh flying for them. It is um it's been wonderful. And I I want to tell you that, you know, if you're hearing my voice right now, you can do anything you want, even here. Okay. There's no dream that's undreamt that can't be applied at all. You know, you all you have to do is decide that that's what you want, and then do everything in your power and your ability to achieve it, and to never let anybody tell you no. I'm one of those people. Um maybe no fear has a way of teaching you to not become uh straggled or put back or beleaguered about something or frustrated. I I was gonna do it, I was gonna do it, I was gonna do it, and that's why you know I made it through.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

That's beautiful. That is nothing's impossible. It's a it's a great um gift, you know, that you that you you had and an honor, I think, you know, for you to to have kind of learned a lot about your life.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

I I value the the ability to do what I do, and I am honored to do what I do. And they have my total allegiance, as a matter of fact, over that. They I have I have total respect for them for that.

SPEAKER_02 55:39

Okay, so Dolly, what when you're talking about they, like who are they? Are they Syrians, uh Pleiadians, are they at all grey? Who are they? Like, are you part of this hybridization program?

SPEAKER_00 55:53

Um, well, it's not a program. Um, we are all related to them. Every person on this planet is a hybridized human being. Um, we were brought here, and uh we're they are our parents, and we have many ethnicities in us. Um, everybody is the same race. Everybody is humanoid, human. We're Homo sapien sapien, they are Homo sapien a little bit something else, um, and they're a diverse group. Uh, like we have everybody here, you know, the the differences in humanity are quite striking here. Well, they're quite striking outside of us as well on other planets, but we're all related. We all carry the same genetic DNA, all of us. It just channels itself out differently, it dials up differently. Okay. Um, I have met uh the tall grays, I have met what you would term Nordics or tall whites. I know I have met the Anunnaki, I have met uh those that look like Horace, the dog people, big warrior-looking guys and women. I've met uh those that kind of resemble the feline uh you know groups, uh, but they're all humanoid. Um I've I've seen one time I've seen a mint, what you call mantid. It's not, they're not insectoids, they don't have exoskeletons, they have flesh and bungs just like we do. But they the way they they're constructed, they kind of make us think, you know, what did we have to compare to that? And we had manted, so that's what we call them. But they're not the insect, they're just shaped differently than us. I've seen there's five different types of gray grays, ETs. They're the really short ones that are sort of like, you know, looking types, you know, short, big thick bones and stuff like that. Uh they work with children mostly. They're cute, the kind of grayish-bluish color. Um, then there's the mid-sized grays, they have five fingers and five toes. And then there's another group of grays that have uh uh three fingers and three toes only, which is interesting. And for them to work here, they have to wear uh prosthesis on the ends of their fingers so that they can grasp things. And then there's the tall grays, and they only have four fingers and four toes. Um just different ethnicities from different parts of uh of our galaxy, you know, they're all related to one another strangely, but they are. Um I've seen light people, you know, fifth-dimensional people who look like angels to y'all. I've seen other types of interdimensional people that can uh assume any look they want to to present to you so that you're comfortable with them being in front of you. You know? They can look as human as you or I, but they're not. They're interdimensional and they're outside of us. Um I've seen uh some that are kind of dolphin-like, you know, they have arms and legs like we do. They're bipedal, you know, they can breathe there too. Uh, but uh they can breathe salt water as well. And they swim, they live in the water. Um, I have seen uh those that you uh like Lemurians, you know, you talk about Lemurians, um, like from people will associate them with uh other ancient civilizations before us. They're kind of uh they're Denisanovian types, they're Southeastern Asian-looking types or Hawaiian types, uh, things like that. Um it's just a whole bunch.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Wow, that's that's so many. I suppose it's a bit like, you know, we're all different on Earth as humans as well. No two people are the same. So why would it be any different? But it's right, yeah, it stretches the imagination, doesn't it? I know that um I was uh having I was listening to this guy's stuff recently, uh Kalaskin. He channels uh some of the um reptilians, and he was explaining about these uh water beings, you know, that you've just described, uh that they live really deep down, you know, um in the deepest oceans on the earth and they can exist there. And he was talking about Agatha as well, or Agatha, you know, and the uh the the inner earth reptilians and um and and how a lot of what we've been sort of um fed through, especially social media, is not true, you know. A lot of the galactic races that have been um personified as being these beautiful, you know, sort of radiant Nordic beings aren't true. And so would what would you say to that? Would you say that well there are there are those? Um, or or do you think that mainstream media and social media have have taken people's perception of what these beings really look like to the extreme?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:35

I think that uh okay, well, you have to deal with the fact that humans will uh paradolize or anthropomorphize when they see something from their perspective. You know, they're trying to make heads and tails out of what they're looking at, and so they're gonna use their own experience to draw over that to say, well, you look most like that, and they'll walk away from the experience and then they'll keep trying to remember, and then it morphs more into what they expected to see versus what was really there. Okay. So we get a lot, a lot like the like the Mothman. No, no, no, no, no, no. Not a Mothman. Is they've seen a really tall Anunnaki, and but they see Mothman or the dogmen. Those are not them, they're the ones that are like Horace. Okay. Um, we we whatever's here, we just turn it into something that we can understand, but it's not really what they're seeing. Uh, things like that. You also have to understand that all human beings are colors of wheat. Did you know that? All the all our tones, our skin tones, are all different shades of wheat, from dark black all the way to pink. Okay? There's pink wheat all the way to dark black wheat, and we all come out that way, and it has to do with how our skin is is handling the sunshine hitting it, and melanin occurs. A very dark vegetable gets more sun than others, and its defense against it is to create color to protect it while it's growing. Our skin protects us by giving us a lot of melanin, so we change colors. Okay, so do they. So all the Nordics are not exactly 100% what we call white. They they got all the colors of the rainbow in there, too, all the colors of wheat like we do. It's amazing to see. Some of them are very hairy, some of them like the grays are mostly bald, those that work with uh the craft in space, because uh when you're on board, you're under a heavy electromagnetic radiation and it electrolycizes your skin, and you start losing all your hair. I'm I've lost most of my hair. I have hardly any hair on my body anywhere. I'm trying to keep it on my head, it's not doing a good job because of the damage I've taken. My follicles just it falls out, you know. Um, those kinds of things. It they're heavily now. The tall grays have homeworld, and the grays that are on homeworld, the tall grays, all have hair. And I I used to ask when I was a kid, how come you have hair and you don't? It's because we work in space and they don't, they're here. I'm like, oh okay. And it dawned on me somewhere halfway through my training that I was absolutely gonna start losing my hair, and I did. It was it was just one of those trade-offs, you know. Um, I have it is amazing. I mean, the universe is vast, and all our DNA is the same DNA in everybody all the way across our universe. We are the template of all life. Your DNA holds code DNA for everything that you touch, feel, and hear, see it that's biological. You have banana DNA, you have BNOBA DNA, chimpanzee DNA, bird DNA, cat DNA, dog DNA, it's all in our genomes. It just doesn't come out that way because whatever niche or ecological system that we fit into, we come out, we dial out to be in it, to survive it and to work in it. So humans, humans have all needed a certain number of things that go together to make us stay human looking, okay? And all planets are not exactly identical in the universe, even in our galaxy. And whatever conditions they have there, they're going to physically join in with that to survive it. Okay. That's why we're so different. But we're all related. They are us, we are them, we are all one, literally all one.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:27

Yeah. That's beautiful. And you mentioned that you're uh you called the uh the the leader, I suppose, of your spaceship mama. Is she actually your biological mama? Or it was that just the name, a term of indigenous.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:41

I have some I actually I have recent hybridization from mama. She is partly, I have her, my mother, I'm missing some of my mother's genetics, and I have her mama's. I also have some uh what you call tall white as well through my father. But my mother's the one where I'm missing the great big jumble of code, and mama's code is in there. Um, so I am related to her. She is a like a a a part mother of mine. So I have my mother and mama. Mama's also my liaison uh with E.T. She's always been with me. When I'm away from my family, she has been my mother. That's why I call her mama. Okay, she's never failed me, she's never been away from me. When I'm with them, she has always stayed with me through the whole thing, all the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

Okay. Okay, that's brilliant. Thanks for clarifying that. So, Preston, you you must have obviously Dolly's case is absolutely fascinating because there's so much detail and there's so many questions. I could really go deep down the rabbit hole with you, Dolly, and just find out like, you know, what were the hardest things about like learning to fly the spaceship, etc., etc. But Preston, I I guess, you know, with the research that you've done over the years, you must have also come up against that other really interesting cases like Dolly. Has there been one um that's really touched your heart in a very meaningful way, much like Dolly has fake.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:02

Oh, certainly. I mean, I talk to a lot of people and some people describe you're kind of run-of-the-mill, if you can even say that about an onboard encounter, uh, which is really to me the most interesting type of encounter when people are taken on board. They're physically examined and let you know, returned. But occasionally people will describe something much deeper than that. Uh, there was one gentleman whose case did really affect me. He's a Navy medic. So he's a very good witness. And uh didn't really, I mean, he believed in UFOs, but his bunk mate on the Navy ship where he worked said, Oh, I'm a contactee. I go on their ships all the time. They've taken me to their planet, they've taken me since I was a kid. And he's like, Oh, yeah, sure you are. I'd like to meet your little green friends. That's what he told him. And his friend's like, Well, I'll arrange it. Came back a few days later and said, Well, they took me up. I saw your house. He described it in detail. So at that point, Kevin, the guy's the medic, says, hmm, you saw my house. Because the guy described it in detail accurately. And his friend's like, Yeah, uh, they said they'll take you. It'll it'll be coming up in a few days here. A few days go by, and his friend comes into the cabin and says, They're here, go on deck. Mind you, this is a Navy ship. You know, it's 600 feet long, it's out in uh Philippines, I believe it was. At any rate, he's like, Okay, sure. Goes out on deck. It's high noon, you know, it's lunchtime, and there's a lot of people up on deck, of course. And looks up, and there, a quarter mile away, is a gigantic craft. Well, she said, Preston, this looked as big as the ship itself. Uh, this, you know, the Navy ship, 600 feet. And he said, Oh, the flash in these beautiful colors, and it was just really unbelievably beautiful. So he rushed to get another witness and could not get anyone's attention. Next thing he knows, he's inside of this thing and it's leaving. He's looking down at his little ship, Navy ship, getting smaller and smaller and smaller, and he's in outer space, looking out the window. So he's freaking out, he's afraid to turn around. He's like, I'm I'm AWOL. And a telepathic voice in his head says, No, they don't even know you're missing. And this ended up being a very long encounter. I could spend you know an hour just describing it. But essentially, they took him to his hometown, they showed him his mom, his dad, they took him kind of into the past and showed him it himself as a little kid. Uh, took him to the moon, showed him the moon. That's not uncommon. That happened to Dolly, happened to a number of people I've talked to, uh, and started answering all his questions. Uh, he asked about Roswell because he'd heard of it, and they're like, Oh, yeah, that happened. They said they speak all the languages of our planet. The governments of the world are fully aware of them, and said that since we started exploding atomic bombs, that's what drew the attention of a lot of ETs to our planet, which we can see because that's the modern age of UFOs coinciding exactly with the atomic age. That's when people are getting pulled on board and given warnings. He was given a warning. They said, Since you started exploding nuclear weapons, all these events will happen, and basically showed him in full color various tornadoes and landslides and hurricanes and earthquakes, natural disasters. Well, quote, natural disasters, but in some to some degree caused by our own messing around with nuclear power. So, yeah, that was his case. He they asked him, Do you want to go to our planet? Finally, he turns around to see what they look like, right? Because he's still pretty frightened. And they were printing mantis type ET. And they were 15 feet tall. Uh, when he said that, I'm like, Kevin, you know, that sounds a little tall. Because usually I will hear nine feet, you know, thereabout. And he said, Listen, you can see me. I'm six foot two. I'm like, Yeah. So they were more than twice my height. I had they were it was like looking up at a basketball poop type of thing, is how he described it. Uh he's a trained observer, too. So he's like, Do you want to go to our planet? And he said, No. Uh, and they reached out and grabbed his shoulder and he started screaming. He passed out and woke up not on top of the deck where he was taken, but back in his bunk. And his partner whips open the curtains, says, So, how did you like your little ride? He didn't like it, he was so deeply traumatized. It even though it was ultimately a friendly encounter, it was very difficult for him. So, that was one amazing encounter. There's many that really kind of really affected me. I mean, there was one guy who was a diehard Mormon in Utah who had a lot of unexplained events throughout his childhood, a lot of missing time, lots of high strangeness, couldn't understand any of it until one day Grays showed up and were taking his five-year-old child, and he jumped up, recognized the gray as quote, friend and teacher, said, I'd like to come with you, and had the experience that Dolly basically describes at age 14. He was 22. He said it was almost like a near-death experience. The seven events that he had never understood as a child, being chased down the mountain by a herd of skunks was one. They weren't skunks, of course, they were E.T.s. He had screen memories, but he said it was like a near-death experience. All his memories came pouring back. He had a very benevolent onboard encounter where the E.T.s explained that he would be meeting his partner, his son would be meeting his new best friend. Uh personal things mostly. Uh a really amazing guy, and he ended up having really profound, fully conscious contact after that. Very deeply spiritual. He learned a lot. He didn't really want to talk about his encounters as much as he wanted to talk about the things he had learned from the ETs, which was so interesting to me because that's what we're doing with the next book with Dolly. I wrote Symmetry, a true UFO Adventure, which described her experiences. But we're we're working on a sequel now where we're going to get to dive deep into what she actually learned from the ETs.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:49

That's a great way to explore it, isn't it? You know, it's not just about the experience, it's like, well, what did you get out of it? You know, how's that going to help you or you know the collective um moving forward, which is beautiful? And those cases, Preston, that you've just described, um, um again, they sound amazing. And it's interesting because when you were talking about the huge spaceship that was near the Navy ship, um with the with the um pray mantis beings. Um I was I was having a chat with a lady called Britt Elders yesterday, and she was talking to me about uh how this ship that she'd seen with her father when she was young, um, and it was a vast uh type of ship as well, almost cylindrical. She explained it. It was it looked like a cigar, but it had a it was flat on one on one side. And uh her father was a rocket scientist, and so you know he was looking at it from a very much uh uh scientific uh you know perspective, whereas she was looking at it through you know the sort of the the viewpoint of a a child lost in fantasy. And um I just think that the there's so many different types and and shapes of spaceships that were visiting the earth, and it's just so disappointing to hear now that they're not they're not here anymore, that they, you know, that they can't actually come in in that physical form anymore. Does that mean that multidimensional crafts can't come to the earth plane anymore as well? Or is it just the physical ones, Dolly, that you're talking about?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:18

They aren't interdimensional craft. These craft can actually become interdimensional. And uh no, they cannot. And it's it's really very serious what's happening in our solar system right now, and it's just too dangerous. The earth is um uh being affected by our sun, it's being affected by gamma radiation coming in through our magnetosphere, it's being affected by the electromagnetic current sheet that's starting to hit us full force. And uh we they a lot of people have been taught about this. I was taught about this at a very young age. I warned people about this. The reason I stayed back is we have a lot to face right now. And uh there are a few things that I think are very, very important. And consciousness is the number one thing. I need, I want everybody to wake up. I want everybody to wake up to what reality is because we are facing existential crises coming up on us for a myriad of reasons. And um, it's not a bad thing, it's just it's going to happen. We all came here for this. This is a school we're in a learn, you know, we all came here to learn, okay? And this is what we've chosen to be present for. And but if you're gonna, I don't, I'm just gonna put it bluntly. I I I do not want a single human being on this planet to die stupid for any reason whatsoever. I want you all to meet whatever it is you're gonna meet in the future, all the way to the moment that you cross over and go into get ready for your next life, to know what's the truth. I think that everybody's here is lied to so badly, it's not fair to humanity. It's a gross evil that's hanging around here and doing things to people. And we all just need to know the truth. The truth is good, it's beautiful, it's wonderful. You can learn so much about yourself, you can heal. There's all kinds of things that you can do for yourself once you start to wake up. And uh so I stayed back. I didn't go with them. I was supposed to, and I said, nope, I'm gonna stay here and keep everybody going, you know, and tell the truth. Um, I know there are others like me uh all over the world, and uh it's not easy because I have the governments dogging me all the time. I'm under surveillance all the time. Um, I'm in the same boat as a lot of other people who are doing it, you know. It's not easy, but I want you all to understand it all. I want y'all to know what the truth is. I want y'all to know the very bottom line of this. And uh I'm gonna tell you something. Hold on, let me bring it up. Talada left a message. Talada is a fifth-dimensional, non-corporeal being that indwells the craft that I fly. He is my partner, okay? And when we were writing symmetry, he didn't say anything at first, but getting toward the end of the book when we're going through it, he's he said, I want you to put this in the very beginning of the book. It's the first thing I want stated in the book. And I asked Preston, do you understand what I'm telling you about this? This this is this is him talking through uh through me for the book. And he said, Okay, this is E.T.'s message to humanity. You ready? He titled it, Be Strong in Love. Love is what carries through, love is what heals, love is the strength of life, love has no limit. Therefore, let love become who you are, let love evolve to its fruition, let the light that is love burn bright, let its wisdom guide you to higher understanding, and let its power move you to teach its power to others. Love, be strong in love. That is E.T.'s absolute message to humanity. If we don't start doing that, following those precepts in that order, we are not going to be happy people when things start really go wrong, and you're gonna be more afraid than you've ever been in your life. And it's better not to be afraid to know what's happening, to know the truth.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:19

Yeah, I know that's beautiful. I I appreciate those lovely words, and so simple, really. Uh, and all we have to do is remember, you know, that that's the truth. The experiences that you've both been sharing today, uh, about your own um otherworldly experiences and experiences on the on the ships, just feels very reminiscent to near-death experiences, you know, when people cross and they go over to the side and then they come back into their bodies and the things that they seem to remember about being, you know, uh in heaven. It sounds so similar. Do you feel that there is an interconnection between the heavenly realms and the galactic spaceships? Are they operating from the same dimensions of consciousness or or similar?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:12

They're they're like us, they're all separate entity life form. Okay. Without the body, we're all the same thing. We're all energy, we're all entity, we're all conscious, and we all sit in source together. We all come from the same thing. Just because they look differently doesn't make them any different from us. We're all doing the same thing in different parts of the universe, okay? So they their technology is light technology. They're so advanced, they've learned so many things that you would think they were coming from source or whatever. They're not. They're just like you and me. Some of them live in the third dimension, and a lot of them live in the fifth. And uh, they're just walking back and forth with us to help us along, trying to get us to see the light, literally, to wake up and and to quit telling ourselves stories to find the truth.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:02

There's a lot of um talk about the reunion of our cosmic families from the what I'm hearing today, you know, with some of the words that you've been sharing, Dolly, um, that that seems further away than than what a lot of um, you know, sort of accounts that are being told by other people in this field. A lot of people are saying, you know, it's happening, it's happening already, they're here, and the reunion of our cosmic families is going to be taking place, and it's all sounds like everyone's preparing for this big event. Do you do you do you feel that that then is a is a distraction or disinformation?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:47

Well, I think I think it's information that's gotten turned into what it's not. What it is is that ET, once our poles finish changing, we will not be able to stand be on this planet after that because we're going to have a micronova and it will destroy all life on this planet. And they will be making a worldwide rescue. They will come down en masse, they will hit every street, every parking lot, every airport, everywhere on this earth that human beings are, they will come down and open the doors. That's what I was trained for to help humanity get off and get out of here. What we have to do before that happens, though, is realize that it is going to happen and the truth of what that means. Because we're heading for some cataclysmic events before it happens, we have to be ready for it. And that is, if we have a CME that downs our worldwide power grids and it's no more, you have to survive long enough for them to pick you up. So a lot of decisions have to be made amongst humanity. People have to want to decide we're either going to fight through this and we're going to get to the other side and we're going to be waiting for them when they get here, or we're going to choose exit stage left, and we will just leave this life inhead for the next. Because we never really die. You're just leaving a body behind. Okay? That's it. That's that's the whole point of this. That's the reality of it, facing your reality. Your reality is that you have every chance in the world to make it so that you can survive long enough for your T to the magnetosphere to toughen back up, the poles to be finished changing, and they'll come in and pull you off this planet because it's not going to be a viable planet for a long, long, long, long, long, long time, if ever. We have other things that this planet is in danger of, our whole solar system, and they know that, and it's probably our last ride here on this planet. There is not going to be a thing where you evolve your body and you walk into the fifth dimension that is pure fantasy, not gonna happen. You didn't come here for that. You came here to learn. You were given a body that you will use until it's not usable anymore, and then you will exit that body. That's a fact of life. It doesn't change. That's the way it is in the third dimension. Okay, so we're not gonna transmutate or transform. That is not going to happen. What will happen is our planet's gonna keep having all these cataclysms, all these boo-boo things happening. We're gonna take CME after CME after CME until one hits us so hard our grids go down. Period. And you have to be ready.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:24

Yeah, so go out to the supermarket, stock up on tins of beans and spam. That's what I'm gonna be doing.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:30

And uh spam rice, beans, uh survival food, learn how to save water, and and have a place to get out of your house and go to, because when the CME comes, you you I will send you stuff that you need to know, okay? It'll open your eyes, greatly open your eyes. There are people all over this world who know this, including all the governments of the world, by the way. They are well aware of it. I mean, have you ever wondered why they have huge seed depositories up in Svalbard and then uh over in South America near the poles? Have you ever wondered what, why? You know, what are you expecting to happen? That's not after a nuclear event, that's after a that's after a grounded CME, and they're gonna have all kinds of weird things happening. The NOAA events every 6,000 years or every 12,000 years, we have got a double whammy. We've got a 6,000-year event and a 12,000-year event happening coincidentally at the same time. So it's gonna be massive stuff. You have to learn how to live off-grid, off, off, off-grid, no electricity, no metal. You're gonna go back to the stone age, literally. So you have to prepare for that and teach yourself what to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:38

So going back to the stone age, so go on, carry on pressing. So yeah, I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:43

Yeah, if I could underline what Dolly's saying, because she was telling me all this, and I'm like, yeah, yeah. I've talked to so many contactees. And many of them who have moved beyond the fear, and that usually happens. There's a pattern, it starts out very traumatic, and they start to realize, oh, actually, they're helping me. I've woken up psychically, gotten all this information, I've been healed. They get this message about future difficulties on our planet, existential crises. They get the message that at some point the whole sky will fill with craft. And it's their job to calm people down and take them on board. I've heard this a hundred times. Uh, if you look at contactees, it's amazing to see how many of them have moved off grid. They have gotten this message. So these things Dolly are saying, I've absolutely verified with other contactees. It's funny, a number of them, because I'm friends with a lot of contactees, Dolly's saying, Well, they're not here now. And uh contactees will tell me, Well, you know, I haven't had any contact in the last four or five years. Uh, even one guy in England didn't like his contacts. He's like, you know, I kind of miss it now. Hasn't happened in four years. Like, well, you know, they're this is because we're not here now. But they, each, have worked very hard to give us this message, and this is ultimately this is the point I really wanted to make. Good news for humanity. It sounds all like, well, this is a little scary. You chose to be here. We are eternal beings, there is no reason to fear. We will death is a lie, we will survive it. Uh, and uh we the way we are living now is simply not sustainable. We're in a society that's very divisive and unfriendly, and it's it's wrong. It's almost perverted in the way people are being treated. We've never had peace on earth, so this can't go on. So this is ultimately good news for us. Knowing that there are people out there who have conquered disease, who live without using money, who don't have kings and queens and presidents in a federalized system, and all the divisiveness that we have, who can communicate in a way that there is no disharmony. That's what we've got to look forward to. And yeah, I think a lot of people have woken up, and that's kind of the shift people are seeing. There's this massive wake enlightenment. People now are recognizing that we are not alone, they're recognizing we are eternal beings, they are recognizing that we have incredible psychic abilities. I don't like the term paranormal or supernatural, but natural human abilities to heal, to levitate, to do telepathy, remote viewing, astral projection. These are things we all really need to work on. And yeah, I agree with everything Dolly is saying, and people really need to do their own research. Don't believe me. Go to the contactees, do your own research.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:55

We we have uh places that you can contact to prove it to yourself that it's true. I I don't like people to just believe what I say outright. I want you to research everything I say. So I give you resources to check into and look up. There are physicists all over this world that are speaking out now. They're not bought off by any government and they know it's coming and they're talking too. And there are a couple in America and there's one in England that I know about, so I'm going to put you in contact. Okay. There is uh groups all over this country. Have you ever heard the word prepper? No. He's a prepper? In America, that's what we mean by prepping to get ready for the for the proverbial day when we have to be resilient and self-sufficient on our own.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:37

So the way you're speaking though, it sounds imminent. Like, are we talking of like the next what year or so? Or is it a bit of a little bit of a little bit of a couple of years, maybe?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:46

It could happen today, but it's most definitely coming in the next you know little while. So probably you can't tell nature what to do. So we're we're depending, we're we have a range, a date range. It's as late as uh 2038 from now until 2038. So it's in that range. Once we hit the center of that galactic current sheet, uh no stopping it then. You'll know we're there. And uh so people really have time to prep. I would say you've got at least a year and a half, that's my estimate, cold estimate. Uh, but I'm warning everybody now's now. If you can get survival food, if you can learn how to live without electricity and all that, and prepare to get away from it because when that CME hits, if you're in a house with electrical wires, it's going to burn you to the ground. Okay, remember the Carrington event in 1859, 1858, excuse me. Uh it burned all the wires up and all the the telegraph stations, and some of those machines were going crazy and some of them melted. This is energy so heavy and so hot that it will melt all the metal on this planet in seconds. And you need to be in a bunker. You know, you need to practice how you're gonna get there, you know, find out where the caves are where you live and go into the caves. You know, y'all need to help each other to figure this out. Our governments didn't want you to know this because they're quite frankly 8.4 billion people on this planet, and they know that if it happens with all of us alive at the same time, it's gonna be very, very bad. And they've been doing terrible things with that knowledge. See what I'm saying? I don't want to say it out loud, I can't stand the idea of it. But they've been doing things to humanity all over the world to lower those numbers, okay? Um, they've got their hidey holes, all the governments of the world. They have their underground bunkers, they're already ready for it in this country and every other country that I can think of. Sweden has them, Norway, all of them, England has them. I don't know if you've heard of them, but they do, they've got them, okay. Uh, they're in France, they're in Spain, they're in everywhere, okay? And uh, but the larger part of humanity doesn't know, have a clue, because y'all are being bombarded with stupid stuff, you know. Y'all have been taught to have division and religious hate and all this other kind of stuff, and oh, you're not like me and I don't like you, and it's disturbing. It's just disturbing to me. It's very disturbing. We're all humanity, we should be loving one another, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:22

I I understand where you're coming from. I think that you know, from from what you're saying though, it you know, I can I can see your intention isn't to generate fear, you know, in in in people that are watching, but um the I I feel look when when you're saying these things, I'm I'm feeling fear, you know, within with within natural reaction.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:45

Everybody does, it's a normal reaction, and I'll tell you why uh that it's okay. All right. When you're growing up and somebody says you have a disease and you need fixing, and you're terrified the whole time, right? Or if a woman or a man finds out they have cancer, that's a very terrifying diagnosis and they're afraid, okay? But you don't, you're not left in your fear, you're shown what's possible, you're given all the facts, all the truth, and all the aid and all the help that you could possibly have, correct? And you become a warrior in it. You become your own self-sufficient warrior to take yourself through it. There's nothing wrong with that. As a matter of fact, that's freeing because it teaches you to be an individual on your own and help yourself heal through whatever emotional conflicts that you've got. Just because it's emotional doesn't mean it's bad or wrong. It means that you have to take up the gauntlet of learning truth and learning what this really is. If fear is going to stop you from knowing the truth, you are in deep trouble. And we have to teach each other not to do that anymore. We have to teach each other that the truth doesn't kill you, okay, at all. What kills you is your inaction in the face of truth. Now we have prior generations to us that went through huge bloody wars, and they all knew what the truth was. They knew what things were happening, and yet they all stood up to it, and everybody fought together and uh acted as one people to get through it, did they not? You are at the crux of that now. And just because it's uncomfortable and you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not true. And I'm telling you and everybody else who hears this, that facing what I say is not taking me at word. I want you to research it for yourself so that you know yourself that this is a real thing and that you now have resources and people to back you up because there's plenty of them out there who can help walk you through this and help you. There are, when I say there are preppers, there are thousands and thousands and thousands and hundreds and thousands and millions of us, and we don't let anybody stand alone. If you wake up and you're coming to it, you will be brought in, you will be taught, you will be helped. You just got to know the resources of how to get to that. See what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:56

Yeah, it's possible to be time.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:58

Yeah. Now, if people say, and and this is what amazes me the the fairy tales that take you into delusion and away from truth are the worst things that you could do to yourself. Because when the blankety blank hits the fan, you're gonna be, oh my, you know, you're and it's over then. You then you have no choice but to go with whatever the heck happens. So this way you're given an opportunity.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:26

Yeah, exactly. And it's better to be forewarned is to be forearmed. Now, I I guess that my mind's now going to, okay, so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get the preppers to help me to get organized, build an underground bunker, get my tins of spam in, survive long enough for the spaceships to arrive, and then I think I'm gonna be out of here. I think I'm gonna forfeit my uh soul contract as a bodhisattva and stick around for the new Earth. I think nah, I'd rather go, I'd rather go with them. So where will you want? So where will people be taken?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:57

Like, this is what I want to know, is like where the different planets according to who you are and where you are cognitively, you know, um, wisdom-wise, all of that. You will be grouped in with people like you and taken to a place where there are others waiting to bring you into the fault and let you live out the rest of your days in line with what you're supposed to be learning in the third dimension. Your contract, your soul contract, as you put it, is still valid. If you're alive, it's operating. And how do you not know that this adventure is part of that? That's what I keep trying to tell people. It's like you need to consider the possibility that this is your jump into higher understanding and higher learning and higher wisdom gathering, okay? You weren't promised take all the time here. You weren't promised to have a cushy life. This is the toughest arena to be in in this dimension on this planet. It's you're not safe from the day you're born. You could, you know, any minute, okay? This is this is the chance and opportunity of lifetime. It's like me when I when they asked me, what do you want to do? I want to fly. I didn't care what it meant. I just knew that's what I wanted to do, and I was willing to jump into it, no matter how dangerous it is. And trust me, it's pretty daggone dangerous. Uh I've fought through that and I won. I'm and I know anything can happen to me now. I stayed back here. I'm in the boat with the rest of y'all. Okay. I'm trying to keep myself together too until they come because I want to go. All right. I'm going to be on board flying, helping y'all get out of here. Um, it is it's an imperative to me to teach the truth. This is the truth. And I, like I said, I'll give you some resources. You start looking this stuff up, you start talking to people.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:46

Make sure that you come and get me, Mark, and the and the two dogs, right? Because we'll be we'll be ready for it.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:52

Yes, you get to take your babies with you, absolutely. The only animals that are not going are horses and bovines, okay? I've even heard that they'd allow chickens if you want to bring some chickens. They don't care. Okay. Fish, maybe, I don't know. But your dogs, oh my god, your dogs and your cats. They they were a gift to us in humanity to teach us about ourselves, okay? They're your babies, you take them with you. Yeah, too, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:16

One of the best things, one of the best things anyone can do is learn to overcome fear. And there are absolutely tools for that. And listening to this podcast is one of them. Knowledge overcomes fear every time, love overcomes fear every time. And one of the guiding fears in all humans is fear of death. So if you can learn through firsthand experience that there is no such thing, it will help. And I have a great tool for it astral projection. Dolly is very good at it. I got really good at it. I can send anyone who's listening a two-page guide on how to do this. Just email me. My email is PrestonUFO at gmail.com. This is a natural human talent. You're already doing it, it will absolutely change your life. Even one out of body experience can change everything. And then you will know there is life after death.

unknown 1:38:10

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:10

Um, it also amps your psychic ability.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:14

It's a great tool that anyone can do.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:17

Well, I it was interesting. I was talking to Britt Elders about this yesterday because she was uh she's best friends with Shirley McLean and of course out on a limb uh in the film Shirley does. Um she was almost the one that sort of pioneered that as uh something that was possible because of what she experienced in the in the Andes, you know. I remember seeing that when I was about 11 years old and thinking, wow, I would love to be able to astral project. But I've I've actually never been able to do it. I've tried staring at the candle and going, I'm at one with the candle. And then, you know, all of a sudden, you know, I sort of start thinking about something else and I haven't managed to do it. But I think you're absolutely right, you know, if you can um learn the basics, you know, uh to do things like that, then the fear dissolves. And and then it's just a matter, as you're saying, Dolly, it's about just surviving the uh, you know, all the all the chaos, you know, because I I can imagine things are going to get really, really nasty with humans the way they are now. They'll be killing each other for food, you know, they'll be they'll be you know um murdering each other on the streets if you're around too many people. So I guess you know, the caves and underground bunkers and places that are right out in rural, you know, locations are are the best places to head for. Is that right?

SPEAKER_00 1:39:30

Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, if you're in a city, I'd get out. Not kidding. Move out, just go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:39

Yeah. Oh wow. Well, there we go. I mean, this conversation has been extremely uplifting. And I know we've we've been speaking for about an hour and 40 minutes today, but you know, there's so much information that you've shared with the audience today, and I genuinely appreciate it. For anybody that's watching, you know, if you want to contact Dolly and Preston, I'll make sure that their links to their websites are in the description below. Please feel free to reach out if you felt inspired by this to create some change in your own life. I know I have, you know, there won't be any tins of spam left on the shelves in coals down the road. Like I'll be having them all. And uh bangoes the whole chest freeze idea for the for the garage. I won't be doing that because there's no electricity, so it's all going to defrost anyway. So we just need to make sure that we are prepping, you know, take it seriously. I know I'm, you know, saying things in jest here, but it's my way of being able to sort of lighten some something up for those of you that are watching that have completely gone into meltdown at the moment. But um, yeah, thank you once again for you know your words of wisdom, sharing your amazing experiences. Like I'm a believer, you know. I I I I get it, and um, I I feel the truth in my heart. So for uh for you know, anybody else that's uh watching, please make sure that you like, subscribe, and follow the podcast today, and uh leave a comment as well, you know, if uh if you've woken up during this conversation or whether it's made you feel um a little bit more despondent. You know, we we welcome any comments really. Um please don't uh just be authentic, be yourselves, okay? And until next time, this is Cosmic Conversations. Bye for now.