Intimate Encounters with Extraterrestrials? Dr Gail McLeod Reveals Her Experiences 👽✨

In this powerful second interview, I’m joined again by Dr Gail McLeod for a conversation that goes deeper than ever into the world of extraterrestrial contact.

Dr Gail shares her personal experiences with alien beings, including her connection with what she describes as an intimate relationship with a non-human intelligence. We explore what these encounters mean, how they occur, and the broader implications for humanity’s understanding of consciousness and connection beyond Earth.

This episode opens up a fascinating and controversial topic that challenges conventional thinking and invites you to consider what may be possible beyond our current reality.

If you’re interested in ET contact, hybrid beings, higher consciousness, and the unexplained… this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

🎧 Listen now and decide for yourself…

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Yeah, the kids ended up being rolling in the grass, having sex. How about that?

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

And then that became like a routine for I don't know how long, but ended up um developing, as I said, ended up one day I was pregnant. I'm going, Holy crap, I'm pregnant. And then we had three children.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Wow. So so where are those children now? Are they on board the spaceship or are they on Earth?

SPEAKER_01 0:27

They are on the spaceship. And one of them was a son that was on the asteroid medical one, and he was actually they wouldn't let him know who I was, but I was a neurosurgeon on that spaceship and he was learning from me. He was the one that was scrubbing in and watching what I did and learning from me. They did not want me to let him know who I was because they were afraid that the relationship he wouldn't be able to learn from me if I revealed the relationship we had together.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Now, before we dive into today's episode, I'd like to invite you to subscribe to this channel and click the bell for future notifications so that you never miss one of my podcast episodes of either the numerology show or cosmic conversations, or indeed some of my transmissions, which will help to activate the next layer of your spiritual awakening. I'm the author of the Starseed Ascension Guide and the Cosmic Family Oracle cards, both designed to help you to reconnect to your higher self and remember who you truly are. If you want to dive deeper, we have an online membership portal called the Oversoul Codex Collective, where you can join a like-minded group of starseeds from all across the planet as you delve into courses in numerology, colour therapy, and cosmic consciousness as well. You can also support this channel by becoming a member either as a SoulSpark or a Codex Keeper. If you're feeling the call to join us together in person, then we also host Consciousness Expanding Retreats in Perth, where you can really start to experience this incredibly immersive work within the community environment. Once again, your support really helps this channel to grow. So thank you for joining this team of galactic light workers from all across the planet, helping to expand consciousness and bring light into the darkness. So welcome back to Cosmic Conversations, where we explore the mysteries of the universe, consciousness, and our connection to the realms beyond what we've been taught to believe. I'm your host, Haydn Crawford, and today's episode is one that truly pushes the boundaries of perception, belief, and human experience. Joining me is Dr. Gale, an author and experiencer who shares her deeply personal encounters with non-human intelligences, experiences that go way beyond contact and into the realms of intimacy, connection, and energetic exchange. In this conversation, we're opening the door to a topic that many are curious about, yet few are willing to openly discuss. What happens when human consciousness meets extraterrestrial intelligence on a deeply personal level? This is a conversation about connection, consciousness, and the evolution of how we understand relationships beyond Earth. So let's dive in. Welcome back, Dr. Gale. It's so lovely to have you back on the show with me.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Thanks, Aiden, for having me. And that was a very impressive introduction.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

I think everyone's going to be very excited about what's coming up because I know that you you've literally just finalized uh your new book title. Did you want to share that?

SPEAKER_01 4:25

Yeah, my new book title. Um it this is my third book in a series of all about aliens as the series in the well, I'll say the first book is Um How I Learned to Fly a Spaceship. My second book is How I Met an Alien. And then my third book is So I Slept With an Alien. So that is the title of my my third book. And it is very controversial, but a lot of people are having these kind of experiences. And my guys and extraterrestrial friends were wanting me to put it out there and to open up that topic with everybody.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

I love this. This is so interesting to me because you know, like if you're you know, if people are getting so dissatisfied with like Tinder and Grinder and all of that sort of stuff, now it's like, well, well, why not go into galactic instead? You know, at least you might actually, you know, have a proper orgasm. So what but what first led you to, you know, um begin exploring and sharing your experiences with non-human intelligence?

SPEAKER_01 5:35

You mean the very beginning uh when I okay. Well, the very beginning was they just started coming to me. I'm a medium, so I've always connected to the people who have passed. And I was meeting my dad who had passed on a bench where we'd have a discussion about family matters and um money, because he was really good with money, and he was allowing first an angel to come meet me, and then uh different types of extraterrestrials. Now, I think if it hadn't been for him being there and I trusted him, I I would have been extremely fearful of meeting these different beings. But because he was there and acted like it was normal and okay, I was able to meet these. And it was like a parade of different extraterrestrials. Like I met an Arcturian and a gray and a reptilian, all these different things. It was almost like a parade. Every few weeks I'd meet a new one. They would come sit down at the bench next to me, except for the reptilian who couldn't sit because of his tail. I'd have to stand up and talk to him. But that's how it started, and then eventually I was going on, I was asked to work with them, and that was, and I said yes, that was the start of a new life for me, basically. And so I started working with them. I started going on rescue missions, going into these um Area 51 type places and getting the sick and dying extraterrestrials or aliens out and taking them home or to their spaceship or wherever they needed to go to get better and heal. Some were very old that just needed to get out of there and go die in peace with their own family. So that's how it all started with me. And I moved from spaceship to spaceship. I started off working on the Ashtar Medical One, which was a hybrid spaceship, and it was all different mixtures of extraterrestrials, like human and gray and reptilian and gray and all sorts of different mixtures. I was the only human-looking one on there, so they called me a human um hybrid, a human hybrid. Whatever you look like is what you're they call you. So if I looked like an arcturian, I'd be an arcturian hybrid. If I looked reptilian, I'd be a reptilian hybrid. But because I looked human, I was a human hybrid. But I started work on that the Astar Medical One as a neurosurgeon, and then eventually moved to my next spaceship, was the Athena, as, and then my third spaceship was the Alphabet. So I've gone from spaceship to spaceship to spaceship with different duties on each one, and and um in the medical realm, doing medical procedures and um just because of my background is I am a nurse and went back to school to become a chiropractor and then opened my office. So I have a strong medical background, and that's generally what I was doing. That's what I do with the extraterrestrials, is using my medical um background to help them also.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

Yeah, so uh it's it's great that you've got that background, uh makes you very useful on uh on all of those different spaceships. So, do you see these experiences as physical, energetic, or something that exists beyond our current definitions?

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Well, for me, it started off with the dreams, as a lot of people, then it became during meditation, and then it's I would say it's just a different frequency or vibration. It's like turning the dial on a um radio. I can be here and I know what's happening on a spaceship, and vice versa. I I can be in both worlds at the same time. Now I can't function in both worlds at the same time. If I'm working on the spaceship, my body has to be resting here on earth. And if I'm working here on earth, my body is rest or not, I'm not working on the spaceship. So that's how it actually works on that part. So it's like just like I can just change the dial and see what's happening on the spaceship, or either I can go up there and work. But I do have to go either in meditation or rest or something here on um earth when that's happening.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Beautiful. So, what do you think these encounters then reveal about the nature of consciousness and connection?

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Well, that's a good question, but I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 10:16

Great question, but I don't know. I don't know. Don't ask me, no, no, I don't know. I guess what I'm getting at is, you know, like um, if you uh, you know, I mean, I know you're not a um a quantum uh scientist or anything like that, but we know we're aware that there are dimensions of consciousness. Uh yeah, there's 12 dimensions of consciousness that are frequently spoken about. You know, what what sort of level of consciousness do you think that you have to be on to be able to dial in and and you know sort of really see what's going on on board the spaceships?

SPEAKER_01 10:55

I'm in five, I'm in 5D at that time, a bounce back from five and three.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Oh, right. So it's fifth dimensional.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

Yeah, it's fifth dimensional that I'm up on the spaceship. So I'm back and forth between three and five. It's just very easy for me to switch back and forth. Now, a lot of times if I'm not interacting with people here on earth, I can sit in that fifth-dimensional uh consciousness for a long time. But as soon as you start interacting with people here, generally it's like here we go.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

Straight back into the dimension again. Yeah. Oh dear. So how do the beings communicate with you? Is it telepathically, emotionally, or energetically?

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Mostly telepathically, and and that was kind of a funny story in the beginning because I struggle with languages, and at the time I was trying to, it's like everybody this happened started with 2020, and I was trying to learn Spanish and Duolingo. And I was doing Duolingo, and I'm struggling with languages, and I always have. And they asked me to be the communicator between the extraterrestrials and humans. So I'm going, really? I can hardly I can hardly learn Spanish. How am I going to learn all these different languages that they're asking me to do? Well, I didn't really connect with that it was going to be telepathic communication, which is very efficient because they put pictures in your mind and and the messages with it, and it's just really fast. We could probably speak a paragraph or I don't know how many words to describe what they put in your head and the words that go with it. It's just really fast and more accurate, I would say, than our speech.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

So what role do you think does human awareness or frequency play in initiating those experiences?

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Now that's again, what?

SPEAKER_00 13:01

Your human awareness, you know, what's what role do you think your level of awareness takes in being able to begin these these experiences of having telepathic communication with the extraterrestrials?

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Oh, I don't know. I think uh I don't know because I did not have a past in the metaphysical world. My world was medical, science, chiropractic, you know, running office, business. The whole thing my world just was nowhere near metaphysical at that time. So I think when we went in with 2020 and I wasn't taking care of anybody, I was able to go within more. And I started meditating, and that's what opened my world up. It was the first time I was actually taking care of myself, and I probably could go inwards, which I probably didn't do much before that, because I still really didn't have the opportunity. I was always working or taking care of people. So I think that's what really probably is what is how it does happen, is when you start discovering your own self and your own mind and you start meditating or going within. I think that allows you to raise your vibration and consciousness and to be able to start communicating with that. Did I answer your question?

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Oh, you did, yeah. So so really it was through you know the but the beginning of meditation uh that that raised your level of awareness to be able to start having these interactions, um, and mostly telepathically. So when when did that shift then into the realms of like, okay, so you know, now it's physical, you know, and it's starting to be become intimate. Like, how was that a natural shift or did they did they project a telepathic message to you that that's what they wanted to start with you?

SPEAKER_01 14:55

No, uh that was not at all on the uh agenda that I knew of at that time. I was already working with extraterrestrials and I was already doing these rescue missions at that time, but I had this close connection to the with this palladium that he was one of the people that was close to me, and he was also my teacher. He was always teaching me different things and elevating me and taking me to the next level. Whenever I would visit him, when I first visited him, I went climbing out of my crown chakra, was when I first met him, and he was there, and I caught and he is my teacher, so he would give me energy and he would teach me different ways, he would teach me how healing. He also was the one that told me um when I was getting ready to take a color therapy class, he came into that class and went, This is how you do it, and not anyway what I was being taught. He said, This is how you do it. And when I went into breakout room, I did it the way he said I did it, and it worked. So I was going, Why am I sitting in this class? But he was my teacher, and I don't know that he was actually teaching me or bringing back my memory on what I used to do. So I was meeting him on a regular basis, going out of my crown chakra, meeting him at first, and then he would be sitting on my like couch advising me. He was also with me when I was doing um dangerous uh missions. He would be there supporting me. He is also with me on um when I started taking out implants, he was the ones he would teach me, and then he would stand back, and I would have to do it. And I'm sitting there going, help me, and then he's just has his arms crossed just sitting there. You know, you do it kind of kind of thing. But he was my teacher, and so whenever my um dog Moon passed, and he was she was a big part of my um being and uh and she was also one who started astral traveling with me when she was alive and eventually was real important on the other side. She was with him. I couldn't understand why she was with him, and I would go up and visit her. So when I was going up and visiting her and playing with her, the relationship between the two of us, the um his name is actually his name is Sash. Our relationship started developing, and the next thing I knew, one time I was sitting on the bench and I thought he was getting ready to give me energy or teach me something, and he he laid a kiss on my lips. And I'm going, I was like, what is this about? So anyway, that developed into an intimate relationship with my teacher, and um, I do talk about that in my third book, and that is why it said, so I slept with an alien because he was a Palladian and uh a Palladian or a Palladian hybrid, some some mixture of that. So that's what that is about. And I wanted the reason for the book and why I'm writing about that now is there's a lot of people who are having intimate relationships with an alien or extraterrestrial. In my on my YouTube channel, I have met quite a few people who are having these kind of relationships or have had these kind of relationships and are not really able to talk about it. You know, so hush hush, even that kind of thing is hush hus, even if it's a human, much less if it's somebody you're having a relationship that's an extraterrestrial or an alien. And so I just reason I'm writing about it is just bring it to the forefront that they people don't have to hide and shame about it. We can openly discuss it.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

100%. Yeah, and it sounds amazing with Sash as well. So could you could we just backtrack a little bit? I want to know a little bit more about Sash. So he's Play A Dian, so I'm presuming he's gonna be pretty hot. Um yeah, and and and did you not feel a little bit at first when he when he planted that kiss on you a little bit like I'm gonna minute, you're my teacher. You know, it's like crossing the boundaries of the teacher-student relationship. Did you feel a bit like what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Yeah, exactly. I did. I was like, what was that? And then because um, you know, I'm human and he's a Palladian, you know, it was also like, well, maybe that means something different to him, you know, that because there's always that, also. So yeah, I was like, I was in shock with um when he did that.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Yeah, I'm not surprised, you know, because it's like, well, A, you know, like he's your teacher, but B, you're also Palladian. Um, what was he attractive though? I mean, like how did he present himself to you in in a sort of physical form?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Well, he was attractive, but he wasn't like drop dead gorgeous, like you always think Palladians are. Um, so I think he might have been like a Palladian human hybrid. So I'm not real sure about that part, but I I I say it was a Palladium because he looks human. But um he was not, as I said, he was nice looking, but he wasn't just like gorgeous. And I'm not sure if he wasn't that good looking, that I might have been even more standoffish. I think because he wasn't so good looking, it made it easier to connect with him.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, so it's also often the way, isn't it? If someone's like you feel like they're out of your league, you're like, oh, you know, I'm not good enough, and it'll bring up all those feelings within you. But because you you'd met him and he showed an interest and he was just like, meh, you know, you're like, all right then, I'll give it a crack, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

I didn't know what was happening anyway in the beginning, but anyway, the way the relationship developed is we ended up have getting married and having three children, so we had I mean, so the relationship proceeded on further and further and further, and then that's what happened.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

So wow! So you so my god, so it wasn't just a kiss then, you know, it went a bit further than that now. Yes, yes. So how did he how did it go from a kiss into like you know having the three kids? What was what was the bit in between? So the first time that he swooned you like in between stuff, what did he do? Like, how did he swoon you? Did he do like a candlelit dinner on board the Athena?

SPEAKER_01 21:31

I can't tell everything that's in the book.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

Oh, please, we just want to know a little bit more.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Um, yeah, the kiss ended up being rolling in the grass, having sex. How about that? Oh wow, and then that became like a routine for I don't know how long, but ended up um developing, as I said, ended up one day I was pregnant, I'm going, Holy crap, I'm pregnant! And then we had to Three children.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Wow. So where are those children now? Are they on board the spaceship or are they on Earth? They are on the spaceship.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

And one of them was a son that was on the Astro Medical One, and he was actually they wouldn't let him know who I was, but I was a neurosurgeon on that spaceship and he was learning from me. He was the one that was scrubbing in and watching what I did and learning from me. They did not want me to let him know who I was because they were afraid that the relationship he wouldn't be able to learn from me if we I revealed the relationship we had together.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

I understand, yeah. So if you were to let him know that you were mom, he he might sort of have a different dynamic and a different relationship with you completely. So what have you got? You got two you got two boys and a girl, or have you got are they all girls or all boys? Two girls and a boy. Okay. And what are their names? Well Hayden. Everything.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

Well the boy's name was the boy's name was Jonathan.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Jonathan.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

That's that's not a human name, isn't it? It was a human name, and you know, they very often give human names. I mean, his name was Sash, so uh not sure. I mean, and Jonathan looked human. And and I and I worked with them, and I and they didn't tell me he was my son. It's just when I walked in and saw him, I went, oh, well, that's my son. That's what I did. And then they told me, yes, it was, but do not reveal who you are because that would change the dynamics and he would not be able to learn from you.

unknown 23:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

So, what do you think the purpose of that interaction was? Um, you know, why did you have to go through that and experience that and then give birth to these three hybrid children? Um, but do they have a bigger purpose? Or you know, was is that what it was for, or or was it just because you know nature took its course? Um, did did Sash have an agenda, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 24:14

No, I don't think it was agenda. I think we've had quite a few past lives together. Okay. And um, there's three of us that travel together as light beings, and I'm the only one that's down in the human form. He happens to be one that's a light being, which I didn't know at the time when we had a relationship, but there's three of us that travel together, and we go to different planets that are on the ascension um journey. So we we were all three together at on um, let's see, I think we started on our tourists, I thought we started that star system, then we went to the Palladius, and then we came to here the Milky Way. And only one of us goes into the physical form on the planet, and the other two are up there to help advise and assist. And I'm going, next time I'm gonna be the advisor. When are y'all coming down to Earth or coming down to the planet? But I do think that we do take turns on who's the one coming down.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

So, do you feel that maternal connection with with those three children? I presume are they still children or are they adults now?

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Um, they're adults now, and that's not the only children I had. I've I've got three more that I've met that I don't know who the father was of that. I think those were genetically um engineered. Uh, and that again, that was two girls and a boy. That so I think there's those are only six that I know of, so I don't know if there's more. And I tried to connect to those three. That's a whole different story. The ones that I don't know who the father is, I think those are genetically engineered. But one of them, when I picked up the boy to hold him, he had a tail that came out and tried to sting me in the back. It came out and tried to wrap around and sting me. The uh the woman or the whoever's taking care of that child came and grabbed him real quickly. And um, that's quite so I I think that was my last interaction with him because he tried to kill me.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Oh my god, you see your son tried to kill you. So do you think he was part reptilian?

SPEAKER_01 26:25

I don't know what he was because that tail I it was it wasn't didn't look really a reptilian tail. So I don't know, I don't know what he was. Um, because he looked human in the face, and he was a lot larger than the girls, but um it was just just different.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

So you've never seen him since?

SPEAKER_01 26:46

I have not seen him since.

unknown 26:48

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Now there's two girls that I know of. Now uh maybe I have and I just don't know it.

SPEAKER_00 26:54

Yeah. Interesting though, because that that sort of brings up some of the moral issues around that, that you don't know who the father was, and that you know you're implanted. And of course, you know, there was this child that tried to kill you. Um you know, that's I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

I don't think I was implanted with those children. I think they just took my DNA and somebody else's DNA and put it together.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

Was that with your permission though? I don't know. I have no idea what they authorized it or not. I don't remember I don't remember any of that. So so my my next question then is did did your physical human body um get any sort of pregnancy symptoms when you your etheric body was going through this this you know other dimensional um birthing process? Did you get any human physical symptoms?

SPEAKER_01 27:45

I don't remember any. Um I really don't remember any. I don't if I did, I didn't associate it with that, but that's a good question. I I don't remember. I you know, I remember a lot of times, which I have talked about a lot, is being so nauseated whenever I'm going to a different dimension. When I first started learning how to fly a spaceship, I was nauseated for a month and I could only eat bread. And then when I was going to different spaceships or you know, different changes, I was only able to eat bread because of being nauseated. That could be also associated with a pregnancy, too. So it's a good question. I'd have to look back at my journals because that's what I depend on on my journals to go back and see what was going on at that time. When I first started, I had no idea that I was gonna be on YouTube or that I was gonna be writing books. So when I was writing my journal, I'm have a medical background, everything was in shorthand. And so going back and reading my journals today and going back to all that time, I'm going, wow, I wish I had described that a little better. I wish I had put more information in it, but I had no idea I would be sharing this information.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Yeah, yeah, I can I can see, you know, how that you know, looking back at shorthand would be a bit like decoding, you know, sort of like a cryptic message, you know. So um so it's interesting that, you know, you you you know, that there is no there was no potentially no physical symptoms. And it's it's interesting as we're talking about this, it's actually bringing up a memory um of um an experience that I had this week when I met with Jerome Martin and he took me on board uh this spaceship uh through the heart center, and I met these 12 different um galactic beings. This is all through like um like a visualization process. Yeah, this is how I I you know that's how I can describe this. But the last member of this this board of 12 people um was my Syrian mother, and I've mentioned uh to you before. So this was um Clara Aspinall, and um she showed me how um because I mean I know you'd mentioned to me that there was two other I've got two other brothers that I'm totally unaware of that my dad says to me, look, you know, I promise you, son, you know, you haven't got two other brothers, and uh I know my mother definitely didn't have them, but um this is that so I believe that those two of the brothers are from my Syrian mother, right? Um, Clara Aspinall, and she explained to me during this process that the um the embryo um uh had uh when my mother was pregnant with me, it had been dissected or something like that. And um, I asked my mum on the phone, like um in the last conversation I had with her, I said, Did you like when you were pregnant with me? Was there you know, did you ever think that you were having more than just one child, or did you have any issues with with your pregnancy with me? And she said, Well, yeah, she said, you know, you were um when you were born, you were taken to an incubator because you'd basically pooed inside of her, you know, so I'd like I'd come out with a whole load of shit, basically. Yeah, and uh cornia. Yeah, that's one of the one of those. And I was taken away, and I was in an incubator incubator in Stockton on Tees Hospital, and Clara Aspinall said to me that she projected her consciousness through the the eyes of the nurse that was in that ward to help me as a baby in that incubator feel um loved and nurtured and seen and heard. So she was able to do that. So as you're describing this stuff to me, I can understand more so you know how that is possible purely because of this experience that I had myself just last week.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Um, does that make sense to you? Like, because when you were the first one that told me about my my other brothers, do you get a yes with that?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Yeah, I think that definitely I would say that's a yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:00

Um what um what I find interesting though is I have a Syrian mother also. Oh, really? And yeah, my mother was Syrian, and my mother had trouble getting pregnant, you know, and I worked with all these um uh hybrid programs I worked with, you know, taking hybrid babies to people. Anyway, after I worked quite a bit with all that, I remember started questioning my own uh questioning my own birth, my own my mother's pregnancy, because she I knew she had trouble getting pregnant with me. And when I was taking these children, or when we were using an um an extraterrestrial or in a human, it was always women that could not get pregnant. And there was an agreement that the usually it was the extraterrestrial woman would carry, I mean, it was usually the human woman that would carry two babies. One would look human and one would look like an alien, and the other one would go up to a spaceship and the human one would stay with the human mother. So I was doing this kind of work, so I started questioning my own birth and what kind of agreement my mother might have had. And sure enough, when she she was had already passed away, but she came back to me and explained to me that I would that she had made an agreement and that I was um I had my father's DNA, her DNA, and extraterrestrial DNA, which was Arcturian DNA, that they had implanted in her. And she made that agreement for her to be able to get pregnant. So I thought that was even, but she was Syrian.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Ah, there you go, you see. So it does all this like the piecing together uh the pieces in a jigsaw puzzle, isn't it? When you start receiving all this information, and you're like, oh, at first I couldn't even comprehend how it could be possible, and now now I sort of get it. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I suppose that can happen. And um, yeah, so that's fascinating. Thanks for the clarification of that. That's that's so cool.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Um well, also I would say to um your audience to just to take here whatever resonates with you. I know this conversation's a little out there, so um just take whatever resonates with you to you, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Take what I mean. You've got to use your own discernment and you've almost got to feel the truth in your own heart, you know, for it to you know, to make sense. Um, so um yeah, no, it's an important message.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Well, I'm sorry I'm actually surprised you haven't started remembering your brothers because you go up with them quite often and visit them. Oh, do I? You're quite yeah, you're quite close. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

I've always wanted brothers, I must admit. I always wanted brothers. So yeah, I mean, uh, I haven't I haven't started from that. Well, maybe, I mean, I'm my dreams are so vivid, Gail. And maybe I am meeting them and I just don't like fully um remember when I get back. I do see them uh, you know, you see you don't see them as looking human though, do you?

SPEAKER_01 35:03

That you see them as looking more um well no, I do see them looking more human. Oh, do you? I do. I see them looking more human, and they both they both have dark hair, and they they don't look alike, but very they look a lot alike. But yeah, and it might be the same scenarios, like I travel with three, maybe these you travel with these three, and you're the only one with the human experience. Uh it could be that they're sitting there laughing at you being down here suffering on earth. So you go visit them, and you see, and I I'm getting the uh I I think that is that is correct. So you go up and visit it, and you're they're like Nanit and Nana, you're the one on earth experiencing this, even though they want to experience it too, but it's still as brothers or brothers picking on you.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

Yeah, so one of the other beings that I met was um it was uh it looked it was so funny because it reminded me of that picture that you drawn, and um, because you showed me, oh, this is what your brothers look like, and it looked like this the the tin men off the smash advert, the smash potato advert for kids with the two eyes that were on stalks, and I was like, okay, and so I was like, what? And um, but like in this in this uh circle, you know, the first being that presented itself looked like that initially, and it was in this sort of like uh sort of um metallic suit, and uh, but then it I looked deeper and I could see it was just a it was just a spacesuit that it was in. And when I looked into almost like the the big what's whatever it's called, like the helmet, um, I could see two eyes, quite close together eyes, of a more of an organic being inside of this spacesuit, and it looked like an advark, like half advocac or something. Have you have you met? Have you met the advark people yet?

SPEAKER_01 36:59

No, I have not.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

So I don't know whether I'm making it up or not.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

No, you're probably not, because I tell you, there is so many different combinations of beings out there that I am always just amazed at um the different beings. Right now, you know, what's taken off what I talked about was the frog people. And um for some reason that show or that little short that I did has really taken off. I'm going, I'm really surprised how interested people are in a frog alien. Of course, that it's as big as a human or taller than a human.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

Oh, imagine meeting that in a nightclub. Like Rabbit.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

That would be also you think of the frogs being kind of benign here on earth, but these frogs are military. They're you know, these are very you know, strong beings, and um, so it's totally different than what's here on earth, the frogs.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Wow, can you imagine the size of the frogs' legs if they were in France? Man, you wouldn't be able to get through all of that in one sitting, would you? I'll pass on the frog's legs, I'll have it as a mane, not a starter.

unknown 38:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

Like differently, too.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

But it's great that you can laugh about all of this because you know, for a lot of people, you know, you can imagine that it would be quite traumatic, you know, realizing that A, you know, you'd sort of had sex with an alien, but B, that you also got not only three kids, but you've got a whole family of kids, you know, in outer space. But all I mean, have you ever had your own biological children, Gail?

SPEAKER_01 38:45

No, I have not. I have not had any biological children. And, you know, I did not talk about this because you know, all the things that this book is about are a lot of my it's five years old. And so it took a long evolution of me being able to be comfortable enough to talk about it, but it needs it's a subject that needs to be approached. It's a subject that needs to be talked about and brought out that this is going on because even as I said, even in my YouTube channel, I have quite a few followers who are also have had relationships with an extraterrestrial.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

Yeah. So you believe that these interactions are part of a larger spiritual evolution for humanity?

SPEAKER_01 39:27

It could be, or it could be, as I say, like me is somebody I travel with from lifetime to lifetime to lifetime from planet to planet to planet or star system to star system. So it could be just that it's somebody that you have been with and you're just recognizing it differently, like right now I'm in a human body and they're in this extraterrestrial body. Maybe next lifetime they're in whatever a frog body, and and I will be in a palladium body, whatever it might be changed like that. I I'm not real sure about that.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

So, how do you believe then that these relationships with you know the Pleiadians or the Arcturians differ from traditional relationships or connections? Are they more deep? Do they do they feel more immersive?

SPEAKER_01 40:16

Yeah, it's more immersive, more you know, as humans we tend to in our relationships, and uh I'm not sure, I'm that's pretty much sure. So there's kind of nitpicky, you know, sometimes changing who's in charge or versus you really don't have that because they're a higher consciousness, so you don't really have that little nitpicking things going on as much as you do as in the human experience.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

Yeah, so less uh less arguments, you know, less who's gonna be doing the dishes, uh, you know, who's gonna put the bin out. There's none of that, which is which is great because they these are the things that ruin human relationships, aren't they? Let's face it, you know. Yes. So what have you personally learned then through you know, about yourself specifically, through these encounters, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 41:10

About what I have learned. You know, that's a good question. I don't know what I've learned, just about all these different beings and what's out there. And I um what about yourself? What have you learned about yourself? I know that's a good question. What I've learned about myself. I I don't I know because you know, I went from there's so much that I learned in the metaphysical world because I was not in it. So my education has been so fast, and having my gifts show up, you know, the healing gifts and the um mediumship gifts and channeling gifts, all those things, that's just all been an education for me. So it has just opened my world up to so that would be what I have learned. It's just a different, it's a different and new world for me that there is not life just here on earth, there's life in these different dimensions. You know, I've I've worked with angels, I've worked with um extraterrestrials, I've worked with elementals. So there's so much that's not in this dimension. There's so much more to us than that. Whereas I would say before this happened, it was only humans that existed for me.

SPEAKER_00 42:24

So it's it's hugely then expanded your awareness of the dimensions of consciousness, the multiverse, uh, your place in the in the multiverse, and uh, and I guess what it would have clarified you know your mission as well.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Right. Also, I it pulls me out out of the mundane pettiness of being here on earth too. I would say that's been a large part of it, where people are so immersive in um ming and yang, and this is right and that's right. I'm not in that anymore. I've pulled out um, I have eyes of an extraterrestrial when we're looking down, looking down at it. I can look at it and be more objective of what's going on, or either that's not worth it, type of reaction, versus being so in a lot of it. I would say that that was been a big change. And that took probably a good six months of detoxing, at least four years ago when that was happening for me, where I had to get shed all that kind of um reaction to the different things that were happening in the political world and every kind of world at that time.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

Of course. Yeah, so it's like a form of disassociation, isn't it, from the mundane or anything that's going to lower your own vibrational frequency. You've uh you've learned to use your discernment on what you what you're uh focus on and uh what and then in turn what you attract to yourself, which is great. So, why do you think that? The this the topic of alien sex then um is so taboo or difficult for people to speak about.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

It's even difficult to speak about as humans, much less with extraterrestrials or I mean, how about interrelation interracial relationships? I mean, that's tough too. So um the just all of it stuff, all of it stuff to talk about, but it's there and needs to be brought to the forefront, and people just don't need to be ashamed about it.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

It's a really good point, you know, it's such an important point. I think as as a human race, we have um really started losing the the truth about the the beauty and the purity of intimacy within relationships, or we've maybe forgotten that that that was the that's a lot of the purpose behind uh relationships is that feeling of support, intimacy, getting close to someone feeling oneness. And you know, maybe because of platforms like we were talking about earlier on, like Tinder and Grindr, you know, it's not they're just put like hookup platforms where people think, oh, well, I just gonna bonk someone and feel satisfied, when really, you know, that brings no sense of fulfillment. So I guess that you know, you're right that there's there's a real taboo around even human relationships these days as well, because people have forgotten the truth of what union looks like and feels like, um, which is really sad, I think. You know, it's um makes me feel a bit sad. I mean, I feel privileged and lucky that I've been with my husband for 25 years and that we met before, you know, those those types of dating sites existed. Um, you know, because you know, it it it feels more um you know, natural, you know, to sort of engage with somebody over a long period of time and and all the rest of it. Do um do you think the ETs will will ever develop a technology where they can go on uh alien hookups as well?

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Being more heart-centered, I would say that that's what they're looking for. I mean, we call it love, so that's what they're more involved in is that kind of relationship, which we don't we're not there yet. We're having to expand, you know, that kind of feeling and that acceptance. We're we're just not there yet.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

100%. Okay, so I've got another question for you, Gail, because this is slightly going a little bit left of center. Um, so this might be one of those questions where you're like, huh? How do you feel?

SPEAKER_01 46:50

Go ahead. I said wish there had been several.

SPEAKER_00 46:53

There has to be, yeah, there's been those. Great question. Huh? How can people um discern between their imagination, uh, dream states and genuine multidimensional experiences?

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Oh, that's it. That's a great question. I would say talk to somebody about it, see whose knowledge. Well, a lot of people come to me, a lot of people go to my YouTube channel and put those kind of questions in. This is what happened. Can you read on this, see if it's real? I was really fortunate that I had a friend in my life. Her name was Megan. She was in the metaphysical world, and we had known each other for 15 years. We'd worked together, and I sheepishly went to her for the first time. Um when I met the angel, it was the first thing I met. And when I went to her telling her, and she was going, Oh, you're going through a spiritual awakening, I didn't even know what that was. I was googling it when I was leaving her because I was embarrassed to say, What is that? Um, and then she supported me on each extraterrestrial that I met. She would tell me what it was. She's been with me all along on my journey to say, This is what's happening, yes, zero. And I kept going, I've got a brain tumor. I need an MRI, probably for the first six months that this was happening. And and because of a medical background, of course, I'm going brain tumor. So, but anyway, I would say, you know, seek out maybe somebody who can you can ask that question to. You also can um do a regression therapy and revisit those kind of things that happened to you and get more details, especially if you feel like you went through an abduction. Most abductions are not true abductions. The um extraterrestrials that abducted you didn't know you had the kind of human feelings and the uh fear that you're going through and didn't know how to handle that. So I would say um regression therapy on those types of things would help um put in light what really happened. So there's a lot of avenues that you can go through to um validate what these experiences happening. And I would say if that experience has been going on, or say you you had an experience 10 years ago and you just can't get it off your mind, probably that experience really happened. So those are some type of things that you can look at.

SPEAKER_00 49:24

Great, that's really good advice, Gail. So, what what would you say to someone who's curious but also really skeptical?

SPEAKER_01 49:33

What do you mean? I mean, just look at come talk to Hayden or me. Look at our videos, um, and you can see how if it resonates with you or not. I mean, you just take away what does resonate with you on all these things. Some people are not ready to especially to talk about the subject we just talked about. Some people won't be ready for that.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

No, of course not. You know, it's um, you know, it's an interesting one. It's uh it's something that I don't like, like I never really talk about sex, period, you know, but let alone this type of sex. But it's like I I do find it interesting that that it is, you know, it's part of the human experience, and that uh, you know, that with a lot of people are going through this, whether they're they're shutting it away or uh pretending that it didn't happen or you know, just shameful, I guess, as well. And um, but it yeah, it is it's something that's real, something that's happening. And you know, if someone's watching this and they're going, oh my god, I can completely relate to what Dr. Gale is saying about you know her relationships with uh the the Pleiadians, then you know, you're you're not alone. Um I I remember, you know, Out on a Limb with Shirley McLean years ago, you know, watching that and her relationship, I think that she had with a with a Pleiadian um being as well. Um I don't know whether they were having sex, but I think that she certainly mentions that in Out on a Limb, doesn't she?

SPEAKER_01 50:58

Probably she probably did, but she probably just didn't go. I mean, because her information was so new and crazy at the time, she probably didn't go quite that far to talk about how what the relationship was really like.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

This is it. And I think you know, it's great that we've reached a point in our you know, human development, our consciousness, to be able to have these types of conversations now without feeling that you're gonna be judged or ridiculed. I mean, of course, there's always gonna be the naysayers. I mean, I see comments in you know, a lot of the videos that I create, um, you know, the podcasts from people that say, oh, you know, they're lying, or you know, um, they they you know, you can like why would a human ever be able to go on board, you know, a multidimensional, beautiful, highly evolved Arcturian spaceship? What, you know, you you're not that level, and all of these these comments of people having these questions and you know, really slagging people off who are starting to open up about these experiences. But I just go, well, look, that's just where they're at in you know their own um spiritual evolution process. They they maybe don't ever need to um fully integrate it, this type of information. Maybe they you know that it's not for them, and that's fine. You know, you there's plenty of other channels to watch, isn't there? Let's face it. Well, I I agree with you.

SPEAKER_01 52:24

Well, well, the thing I keep saying to people is you have to give them grace. If they have not had any experiences, if they've not had any experience of the extraterrestrial alien, they don't understand, they will not understand unless they're walking in your shoes or doing similar shoes, they're not going to understand. And we have to give those people grace that those people will also be the ones who will be impacted the most whenever we do have the big reveal. And we have to be there to support them because it'll be so hard and shocking for them to go through that transition. So we have to just acknowledge that they are not where we are, they haven't had experiences, they don't understand, but just to give them grace and support them when it does come time to that they realize that aliens do exist.

SPEAKER_00 53:19

Yeah, absolutely. So, what's one like last important message from your book? Spoiler alert, um that you want humanity to hear right now.

SPEAKER_01 53:31

Well, I think that was it. I think I said it about giving the people grace who are not having experiences because even my sister has not had experiences, and she'll come to me and we're really close, and she says, I don't understand, but you are my sister. So I think that's true with a lot of people that if they haven't been through any kind of experience with the ETs or extraterrestrials or aliens, that they don't understand, but we do have to give them grace and just know that they just haven't had that experience and and will not understand.

SPEAKER_00 54:08

Yeah, that's that's brilliant, actually. I love that. Um just one last question actually has just come to me, so I'm gonna ask it. Just for the LGBTQ community that are watching this. Um are there gay aliens?

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Yes. Uh so um I have an alien that he's uh we uh an affectionate name is called Medical Mike, and he is a gray hybrid, and he's the one that assists me. He's my main assistant when I do my healing shows when I do the Slayers Healing Center. He's the one that comes in and assists me on all my um on helping people. So he's very animated. I love him to death. He comes in dancing, and whenever I'm getting too serious, he starts making faces and starts dancing around me and trying to lighten me up. He's so much fun to work with. But yes, there are.

SPEAKER_00 55:09

Wow, and and you know, uh like are you aware of like whether they have the same types of physical relationships with each other that humans would have as a gay guy, for example, or would it be more etheric, do you think? I don't know. That's a good question. You haven't asked him, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:26

Yeah, I've yes, and I haven't asked about any even the um heterosexual relationships. I haven't asked that question.

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Okay, interesting. So maybe some something to to ponder over, you know, next time, you know, just find out the more the the sort of uh interrelational physical dynamics and uh you know how it all works, you know.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

If they've got I do know how like five different um species, and that is in my book also, how they do interact with each other on that level, but it's more of a physical level, or physical that I'm writing about in my book.

SPEAKER_00 56:05

Right, okay, fantastic. Oh, so interesting. I find you know, I could be talking to you for hours about all of this, Gail, but I know we've got limited time. But you know, wow, what uh a fabulous conversation, thought-provoking, don't you think?

SPEAKER_01 56:19

Yeah. Always, always when we get together and talk.

SPEAKER_00 56:23

Exactly, yes, taking uh taking the galactic, you know, sort of repertoire to the next level. So uh thank you for your openness and your courage and your willingness to explore and share experiences that challenge the boundaries of what we think is possible. Whether you're listening with curiosity, skepticism, or a deep sense of resonance, conversations like this invite us to expand our awareness and question what we truly know about ourselves, consciousness, and the universe. If this episode has sparked something within you, I'd love to hear your thoughts. So drop a comment, share your perspective, and even your own experiences as well. And if you've enjoyed this conversation, don't forget to subscribe to Cosmic Conversations for more deep dives into the mysteries of reality. Until next time, stay curious, stay open, and keep exploring. Thanks again, Gail. Bye for now.