👽 Alien Encounter & Galactic Akashic Records | Debbie Solaris on Starseeds & Extraterrestrials

In this episode of Cosmic Conversations, I interview Debbie Solaris, renowned Galactic Akashic Records reader, starseed researcher, and extraterrestrial contact experiencer.

Debbie shares a powerful alien encounter where she suddenly found herself in a room with beings she instantly recognized as extraterrestrials — beings unlike the typical grey aliens often described in UFO stories.

We explore:

• Debbie’s first contact with the Arcturians
• What the Galactic Akashic Records are and how they reveal your starseed origins
• Humanity’s cosmic history and extraterrestrial civilizations
• Communication with Pleiadians, Arcturians, and higher-dimensional beings
• How starseeds can recognize their galactic family and soul purpose
• DNA activation, galactic alignments, and signs of collective awakening

This conversation is essential for anyone curious about starseeds, alien encounters, galactic consciousness, and humanity’s spiritual evolution.

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✨ Learn more about Debbie Solaris: https://www.debbiesolaris.com/

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

And there was about four or five extraterrestrial beings waiting for me in this room. And I knew immediately they were extraterrestrial. I mean, there was no no, I mean, I've I've read enough of these those articles to know what an extraterrestrial might look like. But they didn't look like gray aliens. I knew immediately they weren't gray aliens. Uh they weren't tall whites uh or tall grays or reptilians. These were beautiful beings. I mean, just magnificent beings. You know, their auras were just uh ginormous and lots of colors in their auras. It was really, they were so brilliant. I couldn't, I had a hard time looking at them.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Hey beautiful soul, I'm Hagen Crawford, your host and soul guide here at the Dream Time Academy, a cosmic mystery school for starseeds and truth seekers, just like you, who are looking at rediscovering your inner wisdom for a life of more freedom, joy, and purpose. Now, before we dive into today's episode, I'd like to invite you to subscribe to this channel and click the bell for future notifications so that you never miss one of my podcast episodes of either the numerology show or cosmic conversations or indeed some of my transmissions, which will help to activate the next layer of your spiritual awakening. I'm the author of the Starseed Ascension Guide and the Cosmic Family Oracle cards, both designed to help you to reconnect to your higher self and remember who you truly are. If you want to dive deeper, we have an online membership portal called the Oversol Codex Collective, where you can join a like-minded group of starseeds from all across the planet as you delve into courses in numerology, colour therapy, and cosmic consciousness as well. You can also support this channel by becoming a member either as a SoulSpark or a Codex Keeper. If you're feeling the call to join us together in person, then we also host Consciousness Expanding Retreats in Perth where you can really start to experience this incredibly immersive work within the community environment. Once again, your support really helps this channel to grow. So thank you for joining this team of galactic light workers from all across the planet, helping to expand consciousness and bring light into the darkness. So welcome, welcome, welcome to Cosmic Conversations. Today I'm beyond excited to be joined by a truly extraordinary guest, Debbie Solaris. Debbie is an interdimensional traveller, E.T. Contactee, a galactic historian and a Kashik record expert, whose work has helped thousands of starseeds reconnect with their soul origins, remember their cosmic purpose, and prepare for the reunion of our cosmic families. Her journey from a grounded life in science and environmental work to consciousness pioneer is nothing short of remarkable. And today she's here to share that story, the profound wisdom she's received from her multidimensional experiences, and what the cosmic discourse and reunion of star families might look like for humanity. You'll find out more about her transformative work at DebbieSolaris.com. This conversation is going to explore cosmic awakening, starseed heritage, extraterrestrial communication, the Akashic records, and how we can step into our highest purpose during this era of spiritual transformation. We'll also dive into what it means for our souls when our galactic families begin to reunite, a topic that is inspiring curiosity across the spiritual community right now. So sit back, open your mind, and let's begin. So welcome Debbie. It's absolutely a pleasure to have you on the show today.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

Thank you for having me, Hayden. And wow, I have to say that is a phenomenal uh introduction. I mean, you made me sound so awesome. So thank you.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

Well, you are awesome, that's why. You know, and that's it. So if you are it, own it. That's what I say.

unknown 4:34

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Now then, Debbie, can you share first of all your own story of how you you had your first contact with the Arcturians and how did that experience shift your understanding of your own reality and your own soul purpose as well?

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Uh thank you for that. That's always uh a cloud, uh, a crowd pleaser, you know. So a cloud pleaser, but also a crowd pleaser. So sorry, I'm being a little giggly today. I am so sorry. But uh yeah, it is a good story and it's a phenomenal story, but I also think it's all of our stories, you know. So I think you know, we all could relate to it. Um so uh before my awakening or my ET contact experience in 2012, uh I had really no interest or no connection with the paranormal or with you know extraterrestrials or metaphysics. Uh, I was just uh um you know a Navy veteran that was you know working in the science field. So I worked as an environmental health specialist for quite a few years actually after my service in the military. So I was in the military for six years, ended my list enlistment, and then um, you know, I got a college degree while I was in, and just you know, pretty much did the 3D 3D work thing, you know, for quite a while. So I was just existing, you know, I was just trying to pay my bills, pay my taxes, you know, trying to find a little bit of happiness here and there. Um so I think things started shifting and changing um because of two key individuals in my life. Uh one was a cat that I, well, let me, before I get into the cat, um uh my husband, my now husband, was always really interested in the paranormal and UFOs. And when I was dating him, you know, he used to have UFO magazine all over his house. Uh and I would start reading some of the articles, and and I was a real skeptic. You know, I was just like, there's no freaking way. No, no freaking way this is real. Uh and I would say, you know, hey, you know, honey, how can you read this stuff? It's so, you know, I was such a skeptic that I didn't believe it. I I thought there had to be some sort of um explanation. Um, and I was raised Roman Catholic, so I didn't really uh, you know, I wasn't really exposed to any of this kind of paranormal uh, you know, phenomena, you know, uh whether it be UFOs or uh Bigfoot, Sasquatch, you know, I don't know, uh, you know, those those uh or cryptids, you know, those types of things, you know. So um, but I think in a way it expanded my consciousness to maybe entertain that there might be a possibility, you know, like in the back of my mind. Uh uh, so you know, um, so our relationship progressed, and uh, you know, we were planning on, you know, moving in together and you know, continuing our our commitment to one another. And so uh and so during this time there's a lot of transition. So this was occurring in 2012. And uh I would say my first experience happened probably um probably the end of May, early June of that year. And basically what happened was I was having a sleep this night, I couldn't really fall asleep, and I was thinking about all the things that were happening on the planet, and it just felt really strange, and um like you know, we were just really going off the rails. And so I sent this prayer out to the universe asking for divine assistance for our planet. You know, I was just really concerned. Uh, and it was an earnest, sincere prayer, and I sent it to every single galactic or you know, ethereal being I can think of, you know, like angels, ascended masters, Mother Mary, Yeshua, you know, uh the galactic brothers and sisters, you know. So I was just like, you know, whoever can help us, please help us. And I forgot you know, next morning forgot about the prayer, you know, went up went about my life. And two weeks later, I went to sleep as normal. And when I came back into consciousness, I was in a different reality. And I know that it was not a dream. A lot of people say, well, but maybe it was just a real lucid dream. I said, no, it was too real to be a dream. I've had lucid dreams in the past, quite a few of them actually. And usually there's some sort of dream, you know, kind of hazy quality, even to a lucid dream. This was this was not the same thing. It was like everything was crystal clear. Like the details were very sharp, the colors were brilliant, uh, you could see auras around things. Uh, and as I was looking around in this, you know, alternate dimensional reality, I realized I was in the interior of a starship. I mean, that was pretty apparent. Um, however, it wasn't like um it wasn't metallic, I guess. You know, like a lot of times in our you know, sci-fi movies, uh, you know, that we, you know, that Holly do Hollywood produces, it looks uh like things look like they've been constructed, you know, like they've been built. Uh this was like light filled, it was like um very organic, uh um made of plasma, made of light, and it was technology I've never seen. And uh the ship was kind of guiding me towards this space. So I was just following it along to this uh large large room. And when I walked into the room, um, and it was big. I mean, it was uh I wouldn't say it was city size, but it was, you know, obviously a large room. And there was about four or five extraterrestrial beings waiting for me in this room. And I knew immediately they were extraterrestrial. I mean, there was no no, I mean, I've I've read enough of these those articles to know that what an extraterrestrial might look like. Uh but they didn't look like gray aliens. I knew immediately they weren't gray aliens, uh, they weren't tall whites uh or tall grays or reptilians. These were beautiful beings. I mean, just magnificent beings. You know, their auras were just uh ginormous and lots of colors in their auras. It was really, they were so brilliant. I couldn't, I had a hard time looking at them. And um, I was trying to think of questions to ask them, you know. So I I after a while I was starting to get used to the brightness and I could kind of see some of their features. They had larger heads, um, larger eyes, um uh smaller bodies, but I had the impression that they were kind of compressing their physicalness in order to maybe not appear so frightening to me because I think they're actually really tall, but they were kind of compressing themselves down. And uh, you know, just to be at my level, because I'm very short, I'm only five foot. So uh so they were just compressing themselves in um and I was trying to think of questions to ask them, and they were answering my questions in my head before I could even you know finish the the questions. So obviously they had the capacity of telepathy, you know. So so they were telepathically communicating with me. And obviously I asked them, you know, stuff like, where am I? What is this? Who are you? What am I doing here? You know, like the usual questions. And and they basically um told me that they were from Arcturians from the star system of Arcturus. They were illustrating where Arcturus was located in this holographic sphere. So so me and the beings, we were in this holographic sphere, and it felt like I was there. It felt like like it was it was a hologram, but it just was so realistic. It felt like you were there. And uh I asked the beings, like, why me? You know, and what is this? And they said it was a starship, it was located in our solar system between the asteroid belt and Jupiter, so it wasn't too far, you know, so they didn't transport me to, you know, for several light years away, you know, but uh, but it was an amazing, and and there's a lot of uh light codes coming in as we're talking about the Arcturians, but um it really is.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

It's beautiful, yeah. It is beautiful, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Um I've never seen a light code like that. So they must be, they must they must be here, and um definitely uh giving us their their blessings with the story, but um, but basically what I have um uh you know what I what I was gathering from them was that you know they were benevolent, you know, they weren't scary, you know. I you know, they were they they just emitted so much love that you could whenever you're encountering these benevolent and you know uh extraterrestrial beings, they can they have such high frequency and they emit so much love that you feel that love, you know, there is no deception with these beings. Um and so uh and I asked them, why me? You know, I'm you know, I'm nobody special, you know, I'm just health inspector at El Paso County Health Department, you know. I mean, nobody special. Um and they said it was because they heard my prayer, number one. Um, they heard it, they felt like I was ready because I was asking to be of service, you know, I was asking to be, you know, for the benefit of the entire planet. And the other thing they told me which blew my mind was that I was actually one of them. You know, I was part of their soul family. I had chosen to be here on Earth, but I had forgotten my mission, um, which wasn't really my fault. You know, things are pretty dense on planet earth. You know, we get programmed quite easily here. Um, and and they basically told me that um they uh you know that they there was time for me to know the truth, you know, about what was really going on on planet earth. Um and I asked them a lot of questions about politics, about religion, why was this, you know, why were things so messed up? And you know, basically what they told me that everything on the third 3D is an illusion, you know. So I know that's a really uh you know, I would say volatile word, you know, to say that everything is an illusion in this reality. But when you've been in the higher dimensions, when you've been in the fifth dimension, it is an illusion, you know, it doesn't seem real once you come back, you know. I mean, it seems like we're playing like this video game, you know, like we're going through the motions, or we're playing, or we, you know, we're taking on these earth avatars, you know, but um, but when you've been in the fifth dimension and beyond, it it definitely is the true reality. It's like a hyper reality, you know. So so at the time I didn't quite understand what they were telling me, but I said, okay, that's a little strange. But I mean, because when you physically touch, you know, things in 3D, they feel very solid, you know, they feel real. But um, but but what they were telling me was that uh also that religion and and politics was man-made, you know, it wasn't, you know, that each um, you know, religion was created to be to control the masses, which we all know this now, but back then in 2012, I didn't know that. And then uh, and then religion these political parties, they're they're the flip side of the same coin. So, you know, it's not like um one side is good and one side is bad. You know, they they they they equal they have equally equal parts of good and bad, you know, if you want to look at things from a party perspective, which uh honestly I don't align with any parties. I'm I'm an I'm a registered independent, but um, but yeah, that was that was really interesting. And then they were telling me about my genetics, you know, my my physical earth genetics, along with uh also my Arcturian lineage. And I was, I mean, my mind was blown, you know. I was just like, I couldn't even really, um, I was like trying to process everything they were telling me. And then they showed me around the ship, so they kind of gave me a little tour. I saw a lot of technology that I can't even describe because you know, we just don't have it here. And uh then they allowed me to wander on my own. Um, I ended up in this kind of large central atrium space where there was um quite a few different extraterrestrial beings kind of walking around doing their business. Uh, and there were many species of beings on board this ship. So it wasn't just Arcturians, um, there was Pleiadians, Syrians, Andromeda, you know, all kinds of different beings. Um, mostly humanoid. I would say the vast majority of them looked humanoid, uh, some weren't. Um and I had some interactions, which I later found out was a Pleiadian male, um, you know, trying to help me on board what I called the light shaft, which was this uh beam of light that transported beams beings from one end of the atrium to another. And then the next thing I knew, I woke up and I was back in my bed in 3D Earth. And I knew when I woke up that something extraordinary had happened to me and that my life was never going to be the same. Knew that immediately. Um, I didn't tell very many people, I only told my husband, um, which, you know, obviously he would be somebody I would share that with. Um, and he thought at first I was having a crazy dream. He didn't think it was real. I think now he knows it was real, but uh because he said I completely changed. It was like I became fearless. Um, like before I was always fearful of everything. I was had a lot of anxiety and depression, and it was like um my whole outlook changed. Uh I don't think it was like a walk-in experience. I think it was more like I got activated, you know, on some level. Um and then I noticed um immediately after my experience, um my extrasensory perception increased a hundredfold, you know, where I was getting massive down, kind of like you were telling me earlier, how you were getting these massive downloads of information after you recognized, you know, your star lineage. Uh the same thing happened to me, where I was getting nightly downloads of galactic information, primarily historical, but also information about different star races, different star systems. And I never took astronomy in my life. I I have didn't even know what's uh the difference between Sirius and Alpha Centauri. I couldn't couldn't tell you, but you know, now I know all about those systems. Um and I thought I was going crazy. I thought I was losing it. You know, I was just like, where is this information coming from? Uh so I started um and then I started having bizarre experiences where I was interacting with you know Pleiadians in 3D, you know, reality, and then I was seeing UFOs all the time, I was interdimensional. Traveling. I was having astro travel experiences. I mean, it was just insane. Like, like, like it was just like one bizarre experience after another. And uh then I was really thinking I was going crazy. So I started taking a lot of spiritual classes locally, like just to kind of, I think it was just kind of the process and kind of trying to figure out what was going on. Started reading a lot of books. Um thank God for Dolores Cannon, thank God for her and her books, and thank God for Edgar Casey and for Alex Collier and Alyssa Royal Holt. And I mean, because they were the pioneers, I tell you what. Um they um after reading, you know, their books, I felt like, okay, maybe I'm not making this up, you know, maybe this is really real. Um and I didn't really go public with my story until um, I would say December 2015. So for three years or three or four years after my experience, um I just was and on this self-discovery journey, you know, uh just really doing like uh massive downloads of you know spiritual information for a while. And then uh I was asked by a colleague of mine to be on a ET contactee panel in Denver. And uh that was the first time I went public with my story. And then a month after that, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. So so the the journey is never easy, but it's it's worthwhile to get through it all. Um, so I don't know if that answers your question, but that's pretty much you know my background in a in a nutshell, I guess, if you want to, or just the kind of the abridged version. I'm sure there was a lot more information, but there's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

There's a lot to unpack there. And thank you so much for sharing all of that. I've got quite a few questions that uh kind of spin-offs from uh decoding all of that. And um I suppose first of all you mentioned there was a cat as well, um, which I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the cat.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

Yeah, do you want to do you want to share who the cat was?

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Yeah, yeah. So uh you can read about my cat's story on my website. So just go in the about section and you'll find her story. But um, I kind of felt like after I went through all that, like, okay, there was a reason why my cat came into my life. Um, and uh she was a very unusual cat. Uh so first of all, she was a hairless sphinx, and I just happened to adopt her from a Sphinx rescue group in Colorado, and I noticed immediately there was something different about this cat. I mean, she didn't act like a cat, you know, it was like you could take her anywhere, and she was just like, okay, I'm here, you know, I'm I'm in, you know, she was like she was hyper aware of her surroundings and she was fearless. Like most cats are skittish, they want to hide, they don't want to be around people they don't know. Not Piglet, you know, I could take Piglet anywhere, you know, Piglet was her name. And uh and I started, you know, I don't know, I was watching this uh show on uh a network called Animal Planet. Uh it was a kind of a cable uh network. And I used to love those shows because I love animals, you know. So I was watching this show about therapy animals, and it was mostly about therapy dogs, and I was like, you know what? I bet Piglet could do that. I bet you Piglet could be a therapy animal. And so I looked into training for therapy animals, and there was an actual training course in Denver at the American Humane Association. Um and so we signed up, we went through the training, and Piglet, you know, passed a certification with Flying Color. She got the higher level certification, and uh we started doing a lot of volunteer work as an animal assisted therapy team. Um and then um uh we did a lot of I would say for six years uh we volunteered consistently with many different groups. Uh predominantly uh we worked with the Alzheimer's patients at nursing homes. We also did work with uh the Pause to Read program at the local library district. We did that for a while, and then um we did some work with disabled kids, and then we graduated to work with the American Red Cross and worked primarily with the military, particularly the Wounded Warrior Project and also with the Fallen Heroes families. So we worked with some of the local uh you know military bases. There's quite a few in Colorado Springs, which is where I used to live. But um so Piglet and I did that, and people were amazed. They were just like like like even people that didn't like cats loved Piglet. You know, they just and she was super cute, you know, she was like um this little kind of bluish-gray uh hairless cat, uh big green eyes. Um people just fell in love with her. Um but I noticed that as I was working with Piglet, she and I would telepathically communicate with one another. So she would tell me, like, hey, I'm done with this uh client, I'm ready to move on to the next one, or or she'd tell me, Oh, I need to stay a little longer with this person. Um, or she would just tell me, hey, I'm I'm finished, I'm done, my I'm I need to go home. And I'm like, okay. Um and honestly, uh after I found out, so I had a second visit on board the ship in December 2012, and that was when I was interacting mostly with the Pleiadians, and they told me that Piglet was actually the incarnation of a Pleiadian High Council member who I've known for lifetimes, uh, who came to be my teacher. So she was teaching me how to be of service, even before I had my extraterrestrial contact experience. And I didn't know this. I mean, I knew there was something different about my cat, but um I mean she was the most amazing cat. I could take her anywhere. You know, I could she would even ride in the car, she would she go in the backseat like a human, you know, like sitting there, you know, like uh like what the heck is going on with my cat, you know. Um and I know it's just like crazy. And uh I've never met a cat that was so hyper aware of its surroundings and interacted with people. I mean, just like didn't matter who it was. I remember uh during there was some uh massive forest fires in the city of Colorado Springs. There uh over 300 uh homes were destroyed. So they had to evacuate that whole neighborhood um to uh kind of a local Red Cross Center. Um and so Piglet and I were because we were part of the Red American Red Cross, we were called over there and you know, just to provide, you know, comfort to, you know, uh, you know, the folks that were evacuated and their kids and mostly the kids, but um also the parents I think appreciated the visit with Piglet and they just all loved her, you know, they were just like, oh my gosh, you know, I just want to hold her. They just felt comforted, and she was just had you know omitted this high frequency, and uh um, and then we were also interviewed on Channel 13 News, you know. So it was just like such an amazing experience.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

But um beautiful, it's such a lovely story, and and and how remarkable, you know, that that Piglet had chosen to come in to be there to support you as well as all these other people during this time.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

I've often I mean she she touched the lives of hundreds and hundreds of people in in Carroll Springs in Denver. I mean, it was amazing, you know, just the outreach that she that she had. And uh and I do think she was an extraterrestrial being that was, you know, had a contract with me to to you know help get me on my journey. And also I think it just illustrates beautifully that some of the animals that are, you know, that are pets or that we have, you know, relationships with, you know, that are you know part of our families, are also starseeds. You know, they're not um they're not just you know dumb animals, you know, they're they're high vibrational beings that maybe we have contracts with, you know. So I think uh so thank you for allowing me to share Piglet's story because it was a catalyst to my awakening, even though I didn't realize it at the time. Um Piglet unfortunately had some health issues. Um, she ended up dying, uh passing away from a diabetic coma. So, which interestingly enough, being Pleiadi from the Pleiades, um, I do see this trend with diabetes and Pleiadians. Um, that's like like a whole other conversation, but um, but yeah, that was where you know she passed away in 2017.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

So that's I'm really sorry to hear that. Um I hope Piglet you know rests in peace. And I know that Piglet will be waiting for you when you go back over to the other side. I I believe that 100% about our animals, that they are um there for us when we cross.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

And that and you have dogs too that you know you're very attached to.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

Oh, very I've often wondered about both of them actually. They've both got something very different about them. And I I've even thought that they have come in um as like ascended masters to be able to help me learn more about unconditional love, um, and also uh to focus really and and stay focused on my mission because without them being with me, it'd be very easy for me to go, you know, when things are tough, you know. Oh, well, I'll just go back into the 3D world. So they keep me anchored on this mission, and uh I I love that. So, but they're the most important thing in my life now, you know, they absolutely are. And when we go away on holiday, all I think about is them.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Oh, I remember those days uh when I would go on a vacation. I couldn't wait to get back home and hang out with Piglet, you know. So I I do I do uh yeah, I do understand that relationship. It's it's like a it's like your soul or your heart, you know, your heart animal, you know, they just uh touch you on such a deep level. Uh I'm so happy you have your dogs. Uh I wish I would yeah. I know I'll see Piglet again, so I'm I'm not worried. She's probably back in the Pleiades waiting for me there, or I don't know, maybe, maybe hanging out in Arcturus, who knows?

SPEAKER_00 33:38

Well, you mentioned something quite interesting there about um Pleiades and um the health condition um of uh what was it again?

SPEAKER_02 33:47

The um uh diabetes.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Diabetes. Would you mind just elaborating on the connection there?

SPEAKER_02 33:53

Oh, absolutely. Uh so I've done thousands and thousands of Akashic readings for starseeds all around the world. And so I was noticing trends, you know, certain certain star lineages, you know, might have predispositions to certain diseases. For instance, uh Lyran starseeds might suffer from autoimmune conditions because they picked up a lot of trauma signatures from the Lyran Wars, for instance. So I noticed with Pleiadian starseeds, they tend to lean towards having diabetes. And it it was just a trend I noticed. Like a lot of them were either pre-diabetic or they had, you know, blood sugar issues, you know. So um, with Pleiadians, I think it's because they live in such a high-dimensional reality in the Pleiades that when they incarnate on Earth, they feel very separated. And if it feels like all the joy and the love is just sucked out of their life because, you know, they have to deal with this harsh, dense reality here. And so it's like, you know, they're they don't have the sweetness left in their life, you know. So I think a lot of them do develop diabetes. I wouldn't say 100%, but um, it seems more often than not that's the that's the um the the you know the disease that they deal with. Also, they I think they're prone to certain cancers. Um, I do see that also with Pleiadian starseeds. Um, and these are like the ones that need to get more well integrated, you know. So they need to um to accept the reality that they're in a 3D planet, and um, you know, they have to adjust to some of the darkness that's also on the planet. Uh with Lyrens, it's a lot of autoimmune conditions, uh, such as chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, Lyme disease, uh, MS, uh you know, something that really affects the muscles and the bones. Um, so uh because they went through extreme trauma from their you know lyreine uh incarnations, particularly during the Lyran Wars. Um and then with Arcturians, it's usually endocrine issues, you know, like thyroid, uh a lot of you know, weird endocrine diseases. Uh with Andromedins, it's um Andromedins have it the hardest, I think. Uh they a lot of digestive issues, food allergies. Uh I I you know it's kind of interesting um just how sensitive they're they're probably even more sensitive than Arcturian starseeds. Uh so Andromedins was uh starseeds will go through a really tough time, you know, until they get more well integrated. But um, but yeah, thank you for asking that because um it is um one of the courses I teach that people can access on my website. Um it's kind of a self-paced kind of thing, but um, we talk about not just you know the different uh you know disease tendencies, but also what people can do to support themselves, you know. So, you know, what can you know what uh uh remedies can they do to, you know, help themselves uh get past these certain diseases. Um I mentioned earlier, you know, having breast cancer. Um I I kind of uh used both allopathic medicine and also uh a lot of alternative medicines. So uh my my cancer was uh was somewhat more advanced than I thought when they first diagnosed it. So I ended up getting a mastectomy, but I refused to do the chemo or the radiation or the anti-estrogen drugs. I told my breast you know cancer doctor that I was just going to heal myself using alternative methods, and so I did a lot of Reiki, a lot of uh I don't know, um I did uh a lot of detox, cut out sugar from my diet, um, and I love sugar, you know, love, love, but cancer loves sugar too, so had to cut that out, and then uh did a lot of juicing, did theta healing, um, did a lot of inner work around my anger issues because I was an angry little sucker for there for a while. And then um within I would say I was diagnosed in January by October, I was declared in a remission, and I've been in remission ever since. And this was in 2016. So um, so hallelujah. Well done.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

Wow, well done to you because um I know a lot of people that go down the um alternative or complementary medicine route um don't have the same result, um, and they have to kind of combine it with orthodox treatments uh like chemotherapy.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

Yeah, I I did too. I had to get to massectomy. I just decided, you know, I I didn't want to go that route, but I ended up doing that. But I I think a lot of it has to do with I was willing to dive deep into the shadow work. I mean, like a lot, it was a lot of emotional work, and sometimes it's not very pleasant, you know. It's like, you know, admitting that, yeah, you know, I am I I have anger management issues, you know. So, you know, I need to need to deal with my you know inner demons, you know.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

It's sometimes not fun to face, but it gets a bit messy, doesn't it, when you're doing the shadow work, but it is absolutely potential. Yeah, it's interesting what you said about the Andromedons uh there though, because I do also have digestive issues um and I'm very sensitive. So I know that I was just talking to my husband the other day, actually, that I need to go and have some allergy tests uh done because I uh create a lot of mucus, especially in the morning, you know. So I'm not a hack like an old man in the morning and I have done for years, but I don't think I've got anything wrong with my lungs, but I think I've got allergies that are undetected. So I am yeah, I'm very sensitive. And if I go into an environment where it's really extreme, sort of wet heat, then I get rashes and stuff like that as well.

SPEAKER_02 40:25

So I'll know I hear that about Andromedans, yeah. They they um it's like they get these weird, like I don't know, like skin issues and and digestive, and they're real, they got a lot of food allergies usually, and they eat one wrong thing, and they're just like you know, they get this allergic reaction, you know. So um that's interesting that you've experienced that.

SPEAKER_00 40:49

Yeah, you've confirmed it for me, Debbie. Absolutely. Yeah, you have. Now, if we can just sort of backtrack now, I'd like to go back to when you first appeared on this on the spaceship and you realized that you weren't in a lucid dream. I mean, we all know what a lucid dream is like, hopefully, you know, we've all had Oh yeah, absolutely. But was this the Athena? Because you talk about the Athena. Um, is that the starship that's in our solar system, in our Milky Way, rather?

SPEAKER_02 41:14

I do believe it was the Athena, yes. Uh, you know, just because of the where they described it was located. Um and and just the Athena is, I think, part is it's part of the Arctur, because they said it was an Arcturian ship. So they didn't say, oh, it's part of the Galactic Federation or it's part of the uh, you know, this group or that group. They said it was an Arcturian ship. So it just makes sense that it was the Athena. Um, just from the descriptions I've read and you know, just from my observation while it was there. So uh absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

Because I've heard of the Athena before after uh speaking with uh Dr. Gail McLeod. She um it actually rescues uh a lot of uh ETs from areas like Area 51 on rescue missions, and she does a lot of the medical work on board both the Athena, I think, and Solaris spaceship.

SPEAKER_03 42:10

The Solaris ship, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

Yeah, so it's interesting that you are aware of the same ships and you've been given the same names as her because it lends it a lot more credibility. I mean, I was I I never questioned things like this because I I'm a believer. I don't just believe, I know, but I think a lot of people are a bit like, oh, you know, you're making up a name like Athena and Solaris, they all sound so, you know, but it's you know, there you've got your confirmation.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

They sound so woo-woo, you know.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

They sound so airy fairy, and oh, let's go on these Solaris and uh and have a lovely time. And it's like, well, no, actually, these these spots are real and uh they exist and they're there to support us and and they're watching over us all the time, aren't they? Well what do you feel that the uh the Arcturians specifically feel about what's taking place on the planet right now?

SPEAKER_02 43:04

I think they might be a little disappointed, but um at the same time, I think they they usually have the bigger picture, and they probably realize that you know, you know, this is kind of the process we have to go through to get on the other side. And uh, and that you know, there's a higher purpose to, you know, some of the, you know, you know, just you know, for instance, the situation in Iran right now, and uh, you know, just uh, you know, some of the situations that's going on in the United States and other countries, you know, so um so I I just think it's part of the messy process that we have to go through. So, you know, they're stirring, you know, the pot is getting stirred and things get real muddy for a while before things clear out. And uh I think I you know, I think what they're they're you know, maybe communicating with some of us or for with a lot of us. star, you know, starseeds and light workers is that, you know, we have to keep what we want to create in the forefront of of our thoughts. You know, that we can't get sucked into the negativity of the 3D reality that's around us because we're not really part of that reality. You know, we're we're the pioneers for and the the architects of the new earth. And so we have to keep that vision in mind, you know, even with all the chaos that's going on around us. And I do think that what's eventually going to happen is we're, and I think it's even happening now where we're seeing more of the separation between, you know, those of us that are, you know, our frequency is more aligned with the 4D and the 5D. And that, you know, maybe there's certain things that are falling out of our lives for that reason because we're no longer in alignment with that, you know, lower level frequency. And so I'm seeing this occurring with a lot of my Akashic clients where some of them are ending relationships, some of them are shifting careers. Maybe they're retiring from their 3D career or or they're moving, they're picking up and moving to a totally different location or country. So we're seeing a lot or maybe a lot of them are even telling me, you know, people that used to be my friends aren't my friends anymore or they're, you know, people are just kind of falling out of my life. And and so I think this is kind of across the board for a lot of us because we're we're getting realigned with what what our frequency is more aligned with rather than the lower frequencies where we existed before. And it's like you know you were saying earlier like attracts like you know so there must be you know there has to be an alignment you know with with the reality. So we were talking about you living in Perth and and Perth is such a high vibrational space and for an Andromeda and starseed like yourself you need to be in a high vibrational space. You couldn't be in some place like Sydney.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

I mean not that Sydney's a terrible city or anything but I to me it just seems a little more chaotic or more I don't know more 3D than you know where you're at look you know currently yeah it's funny because I just got back from Sydney uh last week we went we left Sydney on a cruise up to tropical North Queensland and we wanted to feel what the ancient Lemuria was like you know so we went to Sundays and it was beautiful up there. But Sydney you're right it had um a quite a chaotic vibe so I was relieved to come back to Perth and just experience the tranquility here because it is you know as I was saying to you before it's the most isolated city on the planet.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

Oh I I believe it yeah yeah it's and and interestingly enough I I lived in Sydney for two years when I was a teenager because my father was on some exchange exchange program.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

He was he was active duty army and he was uh I guess stationed there for for two years on some special project and so I know I know firsthand what Sydney energy is like and it's chaotic I mean it's uh even back then and this was back in the 70s you know so uh I've never spent that long there I I was there for three months in my 20s and I was actually homeless in Sydney when I was in my 20s so I I have a bit of a story associated with that yeah because that was the I wasn't but I felt I felt um no I I had friends you know I had lots of nice Australian friends and people were super super great but I just felt out of place there. I don't know wasn't wasn't my my vibe you know um and so uh you know when we returned to the States you know I immediately you know finished high school and then you know went on to college you know but um it's such a fascinating story that you've got you know that you you were in the military you know and you'd gone really down a very sort of mainstream route and then yeah it was very 3D you know and yeah and then all this happened and then my life changed my whole trajectory of my life changed you know I I wasn't the same person anymore my husband said I changed for the better fortunately but you know he said I my personality changed and um you know I was more proactive you know much more optimistic than I used to be you know because you know I knew the Arturians had my back you know I was just like you know hey you know what's there be afraid of you know I got these ETs that are you know looking out for all of us not just me but you know all of us here on this planet you know so it's reassurance isn't it it really is it's very reassuring to know that you've got that support there and of course you know there's a lot of talk at the moment about the reunion of the cosmic family and and disclosure coming out to the forefront.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

So do the Arthurians you know are they part of that cosmic family reunion yeah I would say so uh I don't think we're gonna they're gonna be the first ets that will show up so I know there's a lot of spiritual leaders and thought leaders that are saying that uh that you know that we're gonna have uh first contact where everybody knows about it you know where it's not a secret anymore uh probably by next year um they're saying 2027 um when when I looked in the records like years ago to see when first contact would happen it's actually pretty close to what I saw so I was seeing between 2028 and 2032 was the I guess the range of years um I was being shown so 2027 is not too far off the mark I don't know if we'll have first contact that early I hope so but um but I don't think it's going to be Arcturians. I think we're probably going to interact with beings that are located much closer to us such as Venusians or Alpha Centaurians.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

So Alpha Centauri is actually probably out outside of our solar system the closest solar system that have extraterrestrial beings uh and so and they're the most like Earth humans I mean they're like fourth and fifth dimensional but they're the they look the most like us and so do Venusians so more than likely we're gonna interact with those races first before we interact with Pleiadians um or Arcturians because if you see a Pleiadian I don't know if you've ever seen a Pleiadian they'll blow your mind I mean it's like you're just looking like I can't believe something this some humanoid this like luminous you know is right there in front of me like um so just what the buildings look like are they are they the Nordic looking be beings they've got the beautiful long blonde flowing man in the big blue outfits on yeah yeah they the ones I encountered um were more Nordic looking um and uh honestly uh on board the ship when I interacted with the Pleiadian male on board the ship I I I couldn't even believe what I was looking at.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

I've never seen a man that beautiful before I mean and it wasn't just a physicality it was the energy and the luminosity of their skin and their hair and and their eyes and I'm just like holy crap you know it's like what is this you know I mean never seen anything like this um and then when you encounter them even in the 3D because I've had encounters with uh with Pleiadians um that have come into the 3D reality even then they they're stunning looking I mean you can tell by looking at them okay this this can't be an earth person I mean that I mean you know even though they're compressing themselves into an earth you know a 3D body but I'm just like you know there's no way this is somebody from Colorado or from you know I mean it's I mean you can tell that you know there's something different about them. But so I think you know probably when we have our first contact it'll most likely be with extraterrestrial races that look the most like Earth humans. So we get more acclimated. And then we'll have the encounters with the Syrians and the you know the Pleiadians and the Arcturians and the Andromedans and you know so we have to get acclimated to it first but that's my theory so I could be way off base but I don't I don't know that's just what I'm seeing I guess.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

You know what I I really like that Debbie because it does fall in alignment to because I know that Bashar um he talks about the beings from Alpha Centauri that they they're very human like aren't they?

SPEAKER_02 53:21

And he he believes yeah they look they look pretty much I mean they might be taller like slightly taller maybe a little more a little better looking than an average earth human but but I mean for the most part if you saw an Alpha Centaurian you would just think oh yeah they're extra tall or you know they but they you would you wouldn't think anything weird I mean there might be some slight differences but um and the same with Venusians. Venusians are very attractive.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

I mean it's just like holy crap they're attractive um but they look human I mean you know they might look like a supermodel you know I don't know but um but a Pleiadian they're just like they're like beyond attractive I don't even know um it's just a luminosity and they're very tall and um it's interesting because I've got um quite a few yeah yeah show me your pictures I want to see within my deck so I've got like Celiano um yeah is that what they're like do they look like this oh yeah yeah exactly yeah do they I've got it's funny because I've got um you know like an Electra as well um oh yeah yeah yeah that's exactly what they're like yeah is it really oh I'm so pleased yeah yeah that I was channeled correctly because you never really know um you think oh you know is am I am I on track with the Pleiadians? Oh absolutely yeah that's it um and there's some that don't necessarily have blonde hair like it depends on what what star system they're from so there's some Pleiadians like from Maya Morope for instance that have darker hair like my color hair but um but you know they they have the you know they still they still look beautiful um some of the Pleiadians in Maya for instance look more indigenous you know so they might they might have darker skin darker hair it's interesting yeah because my mo my uh being from Marope is uh is she's there's actually a few a couple of different ones with the darker sort of hair so I've got uh Astor yeah exactly you got it wow you're you're you're you're am I onto it yeah I'm you're onto it yeah absolutely oh yeah there you go yeah they're beautiful yeah because I uh the Pleiadian I encountered in the 3D she had kind of reddish blonde hair like kind of a strawberry blonde like some of your your pictures there oh she was like that and then it was the guy a bit like that Atlas yeah yeah that's yeah I would say that's that's what they look like yeah that's what they look like I think they're gorgeous I'm I can't yeah they're beautiful yeah I mean I yeah it's like it's like you know talking you know talking as a person that never encountered extraterrestrials before when you see a Pleiadian for the first time you're just like in shock because you can't believe you're seeing a human that you know that good looking you know so it's interesting that you know as you're talking about this it's triggering um a a dream that I had of a few years ago where I I found myself on board a ship and um there was a Pleiadian like who was piloting it and it was a a guy but it was so gorgeous he was blonde he almost looked like um a computer graphic he almost looked yeah animated because he was so absolutely beautiful and and it was just a fleeting memory I I had of that dream when I woke up but I have never forgotten it and I thought you know was that was that real or was that not real but if it was a dream oh I would guarantee it was real oh really yeah I think it was real um yeah I I mean just from you know my my own experiences with them I'm just you know it's just like wow uh I don't think earth humans are quite ready for that yet I mean I think we need a a couple of Alpha Centaurians and maybe a Venusian or two to kind of you know uh uh you know start the path you know of of contact but uh yeah because I know that a lot I do believe it's gonna happen it's gonna happen like it's just around the corner oh you know so I believe that too you can feel it you know I can feel it in me Walter but I think that the uh the Alpha Centaurians um of course you know science has proven that there's a planet in Alpha Centauri that's very similar to Earth it's got the same similarity yeah so it doesn't surprise me that they would be coming from there because you know it's it's very close to us really it's not like thousands of of light years away like Andromeda is and talking about Andromeda I wanted to ask you this as well because I was watching one of the videos on your channel that you did on Elon Musk and uh you know his galactic lineage and you mentioned that he on his way to Earth has been through well it's from Andromeda but he's also been through Venus um and Alpha Centauri as well to prepare him for the work that he's doing on the earth plane. But you mentioned and the reason why I'm bringing this up is because on my recent cruise that I was on there was this really strange event that took place which was really out of character for a cruise and it was where a man was talking about black holes. So he was a scientist and he was talking about you know quarks and protons and neutrons and you know how black holes are formed and and he was talking about how it would be almost impossible for um anyone to come from Andromeda into our Milky Way. And I was sitting there and he was obviously doing this from a scientific perspective and I was thinking no you're wrong there is a way for us to be able uh for Andromeda solve portals through the portals and it's the portals that are in Antares is that right that's correct yeah how do you know about those and and where did you get that information from and what do they look like and how can I tap into it yeah I mean I hear you um from the Akashic records I mean that's just basically I mean I I got the download and then uh you know as I started working with the records you know I I was seeing more and more about you know these portals and there's not just portals between galaxies there's also portals between different universes because we do live in a multi-universe reality so uh so there's certain beings like the doll um DAL these are uh beings from our counterpart uh universe that got sucked into some portal and ended up in our universe not all of them but I think you know certain of their ships because they were space explorers um and uh you know so there's there's portals yeah the doll yeah they um actually the taigettans talk about the doll um quite a bit uh taigettans from Pleiades yeah so uh yeah the doll were kind of Nordic looking as well they were um you know when I looked in the records about the doll um their counterpart universe is kind of like the reverse of our universe so all the um space matter is white and then the stars uh prim prix of stars is dark um and their planet is very um it you know on first glance you would think wow these people are kind of primitive um because they're minimalists you know they don't need a lot of stuff you know they're not like um you know they just live off the land um but they had advanced technology so advanced that you probably wouldn't even see most of it um unless you were on board their ships but even their ships were deceptively simple and uh but they loved to do space exploration so um so they were I guess had the capacity to travel even um into other universes you know apparently so um but the Pleiadians were the ones that knew about them because I think they uh created the doll create created a colony in aldebaron which is not far from the Pleiades it's actually I call it aldebaron and it's near the Heidi.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:40

Well it's everyone's the Hades yeah the high yeah the Hides yeah so uh um so so yeah so they had aldebaron or aldebron as you know however you want to pronounce it but uh um but yeah that's where they settled because they couldn't find their way back home you know I don't I don't know if they ever did or not but um but occasionally I do run across some doll star seeds not very often but um but occasion and they usually have a really different frequency like I could usually tell right away like oh yeah they they're not from here you know like most most of us are from here you know we're from this universe we're from this galaxy you know but um but some of us you know might have traveled here from other galaxies and other other uh uh other universes so it's so interesting that you're talking about you know portals like this because I think that you know of course we're aware of CERN as well and what they're doing and they're actually creating portals to different dimensions within our physical reality aren't they have you tapped into that through the Akashic records and what they're actually doing um you know not that much honestly but the little bit I did get was um they're creating tears in the time space continuum and they're doing it artificially rather than organically which is I I think it's kind of messing with some of the timelines which is why we're seeing all these you know weird Mandela effects and the timelines are kind of collapsing onto each other. So it's kind of like you know kindergartners that get a hold of a rocket ship and don't know what to do with it. You know it's like it's like they um and they're they're approaching it I think from a very um I would say malevolent maybe perspective rather than from the perspective of you know of love and light.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:47

You know so they're doing it more for control or for access you know for uh I would say uh you know for for not so uh I would say high high high high vibrational reasons you know rather than uh you know for the reasons of love and light you know so uh so it's more destructive I would say but in that in that case would the Arcturians or other members of the Galactic Federation of Light step in and stop them from messing you know oh I think they've already done it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:22

Oh they've got I mean they yeah they've done it yeah um because I've heard um I've read some stories about how you know there were some issues with with CERN and with some of the the machinery that they couldn't get certain parts of it to work anymore. And I I so I do think that was due to extraterrestrial interference. But um yeah they've been kind of behind the scenes like the Galactic Federation and the Arcturians have been behind the scenes uh probably dismantling some of the nuclear weapons on this or uh maybe uh you know just uh interfering with some of the uh with the remember you know in a few uh like 10 years ago we're seeing a lot of chemtrails a lot of chemtrails were being in the sky um you know I think they've dismantled some of the that you know at least the you know the ill effects of that maybe reduced some of the ill effects from you know the 5G you know cell frequencies you know cell tower frequencies so I do think there's been some interference um they're doing a little bit of behind the scenes work that we don't even really know about um that's not I know they dismantle a lot of the DOMs which is the underground um tunnels where you know some of the a lot of the human trafficking and you know child uh trafficking has been occurring I think the Syrians and the another group called the Procyonians uh yeah the Procyons yeah Procyonians yeah they uh yeah they I know about those yeah they're quite there aren't they as well yeah they yeah the the star seed Type is rare, but they tag team a lot with the Syrians, you know, to work on these special projects because they're neighbors, so they know each other quite well, you know. So um, and the Syrians, uh, Syrians were smart, smart beings. I mean, they a lot of our our history and our um the things, you know, we learned about civilization and systems and even medicine came from the Syrians. And uh they were one of the first star groups to to colonize Earth, you know. So they were because they were located fairly close to Earth, so they're only 8.7 or 8.6 light years away from Earth, so they're pretty close. That's why they're the brightest star in our sky.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

Um and they're saying that we are part of the Sirius Triad, that the sun is part of the Sirius Triad, which makes perfect sense to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:56

Oh, yeah, they're like our spiritual sun, yeah, for sure. Um and you were mentioning Alpha Centauri. Alpha Centauri is only 3.7 light years from Earth, so it's even close to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:07

I knew that, yeah. It's amazingly close, isn't it? Compare incomparable.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:10

Yeah, it is. I mean, in a grand scheme of things, yeah, it's it's pretty pretty close.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:15

But you know, Andromeda, the Android, you see, I'm from the Andromeda constellation, not the galaxy. So my uh my soul connects up with Mirage in the Andromeda, in the Andromeda constellation. So um I guess that I mean the the the galaxy M31 is 2.5 million light years away from the Yeah, it's it's at least 2 million light years away.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:39

So uh and I think a lot of us maybe originated from there. Like I do think when things are starting to happen with this universe, uh, you know, what the download I got from the Akashic Records was that originally they wanted to do this experiment. So so each universe goes through the this experiment of separating from source, you know. So we just go through this massive separation to have all these different experiences. And initially they wanted to do it in Andromeda Galaxy, but it was too high vibrational, couldn't it couldn't sustain physical reality. So they had to create a baby galaxy that was similar to Andromeda Galaxy that separated from the Andromeda Galaxy, which was the Milky Way. So that's why the portal between these two galaxies is located in Ontares, which is the biggest star in Scorpio, which is one of two of the two major stargates. So uh so that that is the portal between the two galaxies that keep them connected, and then the second major stargate is in uh Arcturus, which is where I'm from. And Arcturus is the Stargate of souls, so it processes souls that are preparing to incarnate into physical reality. So most of the higher vibrational souls come through Ontares, and then everything else comes through Arcturus. Uh and so both of these uh Stargates have very different roles, but they're intrinsically connected, you know. So uh so when people are I so I do believe that when the separation occurred, there was a lot of oversoul beings that massive beings that came in through the Ontari Stargate, and then they split into these uh smaller oversoul groups and then soul families and that were assigned to different star systems.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:47

And so uh could you just um what an oversoul is for anybody who's watching that doesn't understand that term, what what is the oversoul?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:58

An oversoul is kind of uh it's like uh a massive soul. So it's so you have source, and then you have let's say the founder beings such as the Elohim, the angelic realm, and then you have the oversoul groups, which is actually a kind of like a soul group. Um well, it becomes a soul group, is basically what happens, but it's pretty much an archetypal soul that might be assigned to a certain star system. So there's the Lyra Vegas oversoul group, there's the Pleiades oversoul group, there's the Arcturus oversoul group. Um so uh so what happens is when the oversoul decides it wants to incarnate and become physical, it has to split into a multitude of individual souls. Um so all of us um eventually came from an oversoul, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:58

So thank you for explaining that. That's brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:02

Yeah, yeah. So it's kind of like you got the body and then you got the arm and then you got the hand, you know, and then the individual soul is a finger, you know. So uh so you probably were assigned to the Andromeda Oversoul group, and I was part of the Arcturus. And then uh, you know, being the type of beings, you know, the you know, the ancient souls that we are, we decided, oh, let me incarnate in this system or that system, and we have a different experience, you know, or we get assigned to these star systems. Like, you know, maybe as an Andromedan being from Mirac, you decided, you know, hey, I need to have some Pleiadian experiences. Let me go have some incarnations there and help guide the Pleiadians or have you maybe yet a certain mission there, you know. So um, so there might have been that going on. Um, I know myself, uh, I came from a long line supposedly of Arcturian scientists, ambassadors, and historians. So I did a lot of ambassadorial work in my past lives, and you know, so that's so I was in a lot of different systems. I that's why I know all of them, you know. You probably did too. You probably maybe you did some work with the Andromeda Council, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:18

So you probably it's interesting because I have started recently channeling uh the Andromeda High Council, and yeah, and also I've started to be become introduced to um the my Syrian connection as well through the Blue Lodge on Sirius B and uh specifically with my Syrian mother who who named herself uh uh only last week as Clara Aspinal, which was bizarre, you know, because I was like, oh my god, that sounds like such a human name. Um, but you know, it was interesting when I decoded the name, uh, the ASP, and then spinal, aspinal, and Clara as Clarity, clear information coming through the kundalini. You know, it was like, oh my god, you know, it's like it's great when you when you really start tapping into it all and the information that you can receive just by trusting, you know. So I think that's an important aspect of this whole starseed reunion or cosmic family reunion is by trusting all of the information that's coming through and not doubting it. Yeah, but I've got a really uh a question's come up for me that I wanted to ask you, Debbie, that I've been wondering about for ages now. And I'd I've never met anybody that I feel has been able to answer it, but I think you are going to be able to understand it. So structure this question right. Um, so going back to Alderbaron in uh the eye of the bull in the constellation of Taurus, isn't it? Now um I believe that there is a connection with Alderbaron and the Freemasons and the 33 degrees. What is that all about? I can't I'm not getting uh I'm only getting certain amounts of information about that, and it's connected to the um what do they call it? You know, the what the thing that creates circles. Um what uh Merkaba or um well yeah, ultimately the the the Merkaba and the tree of life, and they um yeah. So what is what is that? What's going on there? Is that is there something it connects up with the Illuminati or something as well, I think, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:27

Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. Um so you know, so this is my take on extraterrestrial beings, that some of a lot of them are of the light, but some of them uh are also dark. And there was also dark factions that came out of Al Debaron. And uh I do think they were taking knowledge that from Aldebaron and sharing it with certain dark groups, such as the Nazis and maybe some of the royal families. Um and so they were kind of creating like little secret societies, you know, that you had to pass, you know, certain tests or certain, like you have to go through initiation to be part of these secret societies. Um, so I do know that the Aldeberg, some of the Aldeberon groups did share tech technological information with the Nazis. Um, so I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were also sharing esoteric knowledge, you know, through some of the Mace Mason groups or, you know, the um, you know, some of these secret societies, you know, the Knights Templar, you know, um, and the Knights Templar, and I honestly I do think some of them might have had good intentions initially, but or maybe some of the members might have thought, oh yes, this must be of God, you know, this is esoteric information. But then as they got deeper into it, you know, they had to maybe, you know, do some things that were unsavory in order to be a part of it, you know. So um, so I always think there's a duality aspect to all star systems, you know, just like not all reptilians are evil, you know, there's reptilian beings that are of the light. I know that shocks a lot of people when I say that, but I've encountered a few of these beings with, you know, through the records and you know, through other some people have, you know, beautiful reptilian guides, you know, that are of the light. Um, and then there's not all Pleiadians are of the light, you know, there's some very dark rogue Pleiadians out there, you know. So um, so I do think there were certain groups that were maybe benefiting, like maybe members of maybe you know, genetic members of their family by sharing this information, making it exclusive. Um, because a lot of the information that the Masons were studying were actually correct. As a matter of fact, a lot of the founding fathers in the United States were Masons, you know, they they knew about Lyra. This is a little story I don't tell. I mean, I probably haven't told it in a while, but I did get a download that um pretty much the constitution was downloaded by the founding fathers through the Pleiadians, you know. So initially, you know, they were trying to develop a more democratic or a more um, you know, uh, you know, government that was more equal. Um, of course, you know, our the American government's pretty corrupt now, just like a lot of governments. But um, but initially they the intention was to create a government unlike any in on the planet, uh, you know, back in the 1700s. And then the other download I got was that John Adams, um, when he designed the American flag, you know, the original flag with the 13 stars, the 13 stars didn't represent the 13 colonies. What it actually represented was the 13 stars of Lyra, because he knew about Lyra. He knew that it was um the found it was the home of human consciousness. Where do they get that information from? From the Masons, you know, so from their connection with the Masons. So uh so there's good and bad aspects to even these secret societies, but um, but yeah, it's super interesting when you dive deep, you know, just the extraterrestrial connections with everything that's on this planet is pretty fascinating.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:33

It is, it really is. And you know, it's funny that you touch upon the Nazi regime as well, because I was all I've been aware of that. And doesn't that also connect up to the four the the four main stars as well?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:44

Yeah, yeah, the four royal stars.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:46

Yeah, the royal stars. Yeah, it's interestingly enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:49

Aldebaron's aligned with Archangel Michael, you know, which is the sword of truth.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:56

So yeah, that's that's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:59

Uh well it is because you know it's all there encoded in the seals of Solomon as well, isn't it? A lot of this information, which you know, some people you know would say that that is is dark, you know, sort of energy to tap into. But you know, it's like I believe that there is light and dark in in every in everything and every one.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

Oh, absolutely. I mean, I I even believe that about the uh the British royal family, that uh I think there's a lot of dark. There, you know, obviously they have reptilian genetics, you know. I I do believe that. Um but I think some members of them might be shifting to the light, you know. I don't know. I mean, obviously not Prince Andrew, you know, he's he's pretty dark, but um, but and also what what his ex-wife Fergie, or you know, um, yeah, so it's so so some of them are as dark as they get, but I think I do think there's some that are trying to shift to, you know, like Princess Diana, for instance, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:58

Oh, yeah, completely different cattle fish altogether. But um it's very interesting, you know, all of this. I think that when you look at you know the the the uh you know the agenda behind, you know, especially uh what's taking place within Alderbaron and um you know this this this 33 degrees that that sort of um forms part of the uh the Freemason uh hierarchical structure and um and then you start thinking about you know how the information or or how humanity developed the you know that whole um um behavioral pattern you know of trafficking children and eating babies and all of this sort of stuff, you know, which stuff, yeah. You ask yourself, well, did that come in from Alderbaran? You know, was it was it a fra faction group from Alderbaron that was part of a dark force that maybe brought that into the human I don't know if it specifically came from Al Aldebaran, it might have been Draconian, I think yeah, I would say a lot of the Dracos really they really enjoyed eating humans, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:06

They they love that stuff, so yeah, that's um uh I mean the dark, dark ones, obviously, but yeah, uh and uh pretty much what I saw was that a lot of these dark factions uh came to Earth after the fall of the Orion Empire during the Orion Wars. So not all of them wanted to be integrated into the light. You know, some of them were just like, you know, okay, we lost a war, but there's other, I guess, other systems we can conquer. So they came to our solar system. And, you know, I think initially they settled in uh what a planet called Maldec, which used which used to be between Jupiter and Mars, which is now the asteroid belt because they blew themselves up. And then I don't think they had much success with Mars. I think they just kind of gave up Mars. I mean, I think they tried and and then uh they came to Earth and infiltrated the Atlantis, you know, the governments in Atlantis, and uh started uh, you know, kind of infiltrating from Atlantis into all the royal, you know, kind of the the elite royal groups, you know, that are now what we call the Illuminati. So um so I would think a lot of that came from Orion, because there was a lot of human trafficking in Orion. A lot. I mean, it was like I I do believe that Star Wars, a whole Star Wars franchise, you know, all the shows and the movies, and you know, now Disney I think owns all of it, but um all of that was based on the Orion Wars. That it wasn't it it's actually not not fiction, it's it's based on reality.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:50

Um I do believe that science fact, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:54

It is science fact, and same with Star Trek, um and and Stargate SG1. I don't know if you ever watched that show, but um it's all based on facts. I mean it it's a it's like soft disclosure, you know, they're trying to trinkle information out, but you know, just making it making this seem like it's fiction, but it really isn't. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:15

Wow, wow, it's so interesting. I I I just love this conversation. I could talk to you for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:21

I know. Matt, I feel the same way. You're like my soul brother, my Andromeda soul brother. So exactly. Um well I'll have to get you. Yeah, I'm so happy to have met you and that we can talk about this.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:31

Yeah, yeah, let's do it, let's do it. But I th I suppose before we before you you you sort of have to head off into the light uh tonight, um, would it be possible for you to um maybe just take a few moments to to tune into the myakashic records? Because I've never had anyone ever do that for me before. I don't want you to go into loads of detail, you know, and last for hours, but just maybe a little um few minutes of what you can pick up from um the Myakarshik Records about specifically with what I'm actually here to do now. And um, you know, if you see if if you see me having these otherworldly um encounters, like I'm hearing so much about with everybody that I interview, I'm sort of almost feeling a bit left behind. Like, why aren't you seeing me? You know, it's like, well, well, you know, I I've just got to live in blind faith doing this work, but I've not had any of these experiences fully yet. I've had a little thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:25

Yeah, gotcha. Okay. Um what's your full name and birth date?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:30

So it's Hayden Crawford, so it's H A Y D E N Crawford. Okay, and your birth date's the 16th of October, 1972.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:45

Okay, so that you're gonna laugh when I tell you this, but um uh I see this trend with zodiac signs and and star lineages, and I'm guessing you're uh a Libra. And uh I see a lot of Libras connected with Andromeda, Libras and Aquariuses, and uh also Capricorn, Capricorn and sometimes Sagittarius. So uh so it's interesting that you're a Libra because you're bringing in that air element, that you know, very high vibrational air element, you know, through your Andromedan lineage. Uh let me tap into your records. I'm not gonna do the whole Akashic process, I'm just gonna tap in and see what what the guides will show us here. Um so yeah, they're showing um that uh you did a lot of star missions. Uh I think initially you you were from Mirac, I or that was where you know your soul settled after you left Andromeda Galaxy. Um so you actually have a little bit of a background also in uh energetic frequency healing. So you are very gifted um in frequency and and energetic manifestation. Like I think you're one of those souls that you probably manifest a lot things a lot easier than you realize, you know, in your human form. But um, like you manifested living in Perth, you know, so you know, so that's that's a manifestation. But um, so I think that was your background, but I think as a soul you wanted to be of service on a on a grander scale. Um, and it just wasn't due to ego, I think it was due um uh of a sincere desire to be of service, you know, that you just wanted to help out systems that were struggling, you know, with with ascension or with evolution. And so I do see in the records that you were um assigned to uh the some of the Orion Belt Stars, you know, so you were one of the Andromedans that spent time in Orion, you went through the Syrian mystery schools, so um so you're very familiar with esoteric knowledge. I think that's where you got a lot of information about spirituality and galactic history, and um, and then you also had this background in in manipulating um frequencies. So uh, you know, so I think you were uh so you had this esoteric information from Andromeda, but then you had to integrate a lot of this more physical um information from Sirius, you know, because Syrians were the the masters of physical healing. And so um I and then we also discussed. you know earlier about your connection with the Pleiades. Um and um you you have some beautiful imagery of Pleiadian beings. And I do think that comes from your soul memory. So whoever created those image those images for you were tapping into your consciousness. You know so they were pulling out soul memories from these beings that you interacted with in these different star systems that that you were in of service to and you have this really humble soul I you know it's like it's like you have so many beautiful abilities and you're you're just uh you're just here to shine your light you know to bring in this higher frequency to help shift consciousness on the planet and uh I I just love how humble you are you know uh you're I mean you're you're you kind of remind me a little bit of Keanu Reeves who is another Andromedan starseed you know he's he's Lyran Andromedan and uh um he I really enjoyed uh doing his Akashic reading because you know I saw the path that he took and uh he's also a very humble soul for being part of Hollywood you know but um but but you're but I would say you carry a lot of the typical Andromedan qualities of not caring about what other people do you know so you don't care you know um you freedom is super super important to you so even in relationships you have to have some level of freedom um and then um you you follow your own path you know you don't uh go by what the crowd is doing uh uh I think sometimes you might struggle a little bit with communicating your feelings just because Andromeda was a very telepathic reality and you had a hard time um and so they would ex they would communicate with each other telepathically so I think sometimes when they come to earth they might struggle although I I would say you were very eloquent during this whole um it's not that you're not eloquent or you don't use uh langu you know good language but I think sometimes you struggle with sharing your feelings you know so more your emotional um uh and then the other thing about Andromedan and Starseeds is that um they're they're visionaries you know so they're ahead of the pack so you're ahead of probably a lot of other starseeds out there as far as what the work that you're doing. What I see you eventually doing because this was one of your questions is um I do think you're gonna share information for a while um but I think eventually you're gonna you know as we move into the galactic age which is just around the corner you're gonna become more of a galactic emissary so you're gonna step into a different role um and that's why you had to be in Australia you know like like part of the whole process is recreating new Lemuria which obviously we're not gonna create this whole new continent you know obviously that's physically impossible but we will create new the the the frequency of new Lemuria because Lemuria was actually founded by Andromedans and Arcturians so um so part of what you're gonna be doing in Perth and you know maybe the surrounding areas is creating this high vibrational uh new new earth frequency um and uh there'll be visitations to come so your guides are saying you know don't worry about not making it on the Athena or not interacting with extraterrestrials because those days are coming you know where it's gonna be in real life you know not just in a dream or in you know an astro travel you know so and I'm thinking about five years from now I think you know in about five years your role's gonna shift um so that's pretty much what I'm getting for you now um I'm gonna kind of close the records here so I want to physically close the records. I hope that was helpful.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:23

I wow I love that yeah you know it's so interesting everything you said uh resonated with me completely and it was interesting because it was like in my mind I could see little pieces of the jigsaw coming together that were missing so it was like okay that's that's joined up that's joined up and when you mentioned Keanu Reeves it was funny because I've always really thought the world of Keanu Reeves um I like his energy always have I I love him too he's I don't like Hollywood actors or actresses I don't I mean but I like him so he's probably the only person that I would have felt flattered compared to out of that lot. Well your personalities are very similar honestly I I I think he's a Virgo but um I mean I did as I did as a Koshic record so I I I saw his background but I know yeah but yeah you you're very very similar yeah um you might have even both come from the same soul group who knows yeah yeah but it's funny because it's always come up for me even when I was about I think I was in my early twenties and his name came up as being somebody that I would really get on with um it was it was very very interesting and I was like oh yeah I've always felt that way about him I was obsessed with um him in uh my own private Idaho uh with Riverside oh interesting interesting I loved that film I loved the character that he played so oh yeah that was a really really cool cool movie and I love the whole Matrix series when he was playing Neo oh my gosh it was just like wow they that was like divinely orchestrated that he had to have that role you know because it that I think a lot of people woke up after watching that whole series it's changed the zeitgeist didn't it you know it's like yeah became aware of what was really going on so it's been so lovely talking to you today Debbie thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and you know um and so much heart as well with everybody today and and and I think for a lot of people that are watching this you'll have answered a lot of questions that maybe they didn't even realize that they had um so for anyone who's watching this please make sure you check out Debbie Solaris.com uh her website all of her teachings um her wonderful gifts and and teachings around you know how each of the the starseed um races uh have different health conditions yeah there's a whole galactic history section on my website so you know it's all it's free to anybody that wants to check it out and then I'm also on social media you know the the usual um instagram facebook youtube so um so you could people can follow me there as well yeah and you've got your own YouTube channel as well which is full of information which is absolutely brilliant yeah a lot of videos there yeah so um you can even watch the one on Keanu Reeves so yeah oh yeah is the one on Keanu Reeves on there as well yeah there's one of Keanu Reeves on there yeah right that's where I'm going straight away yeah all right guys well until next time stay curious stay open and keep evolving thank you for being part of Cosmic Conversations bye for now